Team points when a member moves

[dreadnaut]

Today, the ZakStunts rules include these two points:

- You can join any team if allowed, but if you joined one, you can't leave it through the year, only with losing all your team points.
- When you join a team, and you didn't have one before all your previous results count as the team's too.

Emphasis mine

I suspect that these rules exist because ZakStunts track team membership at a season level. In part from our previous discussion about non-scoring team members, and prompted by myself and MiDiaN swapping places, I'm wondering if we should switch to tracking team membership per-race, and amend the rules above so that points scored for a team stay with team, or remain unassigned

I would update the team section in the rules as such:

We encourage you join or start a team. It greatly improves your racing skills, and your motivation to race.

- A team consists of minimum 2, maximum 4 pipsqueaks.
- You can join any existing team, as long as its members agree.
- You can also form a new team: you need at least two members, a team name, and a logo. Let us know in the forum's Team Zone.
- Points scored while part of a team will count for the team championship, and remain to the team if you leave mid-season.
- Team members may share their knowledge or replays, but it's forbidden to race in the name of another teammate, or to use a part of your mate's replay for continuing.
- Team members can request a private "team section" on the forum.
- You can request to leave a team at any time.

[dreadnaut]

Bump! I need your thoughts on this

[Duplode]

To me, it sounds like a change worth doing. The one arguable advantage I can see in the current rules is giving an initial boost to brand new teams created mid-season by free agents. However, I'm not convinced that's enough to justify the status quo, with its strangeness of retroactive changes to the team scoreboard and its complexity in having to handle free agents differently from pipsqueaks leaving a team.

[Cas]

I don't tend to contribute a lot to teams because I'm a lower scoreboard pipsqueak. However, I do feel that teams need some certainty, so yes, points should remain what they were, like... in the team they were produced and with the value they had. So... if my replay doesn't result in any point, but in the next race, a team mate leaves or is replaced by another and that would've made my replay worth points had the new configuration been like that before, then I should still not score for races I've already played. As long as that is true, it makes sense to me that nobody should be forced to stay in or out of a team.

On the other hand, there are reasons why one might want to join or leave a team mid-season and not all of them are equally strong, so maybe the rules should say something on how to justify this because, for example, a team could be counting on the future points it'll make thanks to a certain member and more importantly, another team may be counting on its rival team not having a certain member to score good points. This may seem cruel, but I think it at least deserves some thought.

Anyway, I am OK with any changes. It really doesn't bother me at all. Even on ZakStunts, I race for kicks   I just want to drop my thoughts here in case they could be useful or may lead you to other, more elaborate thoughts than mine!