Stunts pages

[zaqrack]

here is the second image

[dstien]

This is not original either, but I have extracted the contents of the ADF images.

Just bought boxed 1.2 on Ebay. Also noticed this set of unboxed BB on 5¼", but I'll rather wait for another box. They pop up now and then, but they're usually gone by the time I've seen the mail for the automated search.

The file structure seems quite similar to PC versions, but it seems more stuff is integrated. I wonder if we could port the physics engine part to PC. Probably not.

Anything is possible, besides finding time to do it. Clvn made some impressive progress on restunts before Christmas, so a port of BB1.1 will be ready any decade now.

[zaqrack]

Anything is possible, besides finding time to do it. Clvn made some impressive progress on restunts before Christmas, so a port of BB1.1 will be ready any decade now.

hope I will still live

[Duplode]

btw Marco has mad skills when it comes to driving games. If you ever played F1GP2 at Ace level without driving aids you'll understand after watching this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdDi_5Krv-c

Awesome - and all that with keyboard controls! I still have an original F1GP2 disk. Must get it working somehow 

[Duplode]

Googling for UnskilledStunts led to two interesting mentions:

• https://cofitaim.wordpress.com/2010/05/12/racing-circuits-and-bloody-arenas-a-personal-history-of-map-making - First post in the series is mostly dedicated to Stunts.
• https://cs.stanford.edu/people/eroberts/courses/cs181/projects/2010-11/WorseIsBetter/index.php/Growable-is-better.html - Student project from Stanford's CS course. Mentions Stunts as an example of how add-ons and content creation tools can lead to software longevity.

[BonzaiJoe]

So this community now exists in the academic world as a research object. That's cool.

[Duplode]

Wow, it's been a while since I last updated this thread! Mentions of Stunts do keep popping up:

https://dosreloaded.de/forum/index.php/Thread/869-Stunts-Eure-Strecken/?pageNo=1 -- Still-running thread from 2017 in a German forum. One highlight is a pretty Monte Carlo recreation, featuring the MP4/4.
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/lost-and-forgotten-except-by-us.98735/page-20#post-5717349 -- A hat tip to ZakStunts in a 2018 forum thread.
https://www.giantbomb.com/stunts/3030-15918/ -- dreadnaut told me about this one last year: a Wiki for games, kinda like a modern take on good old GameFAQs. I edited the Stunts article to add a section about the online community; happily, it was approved.
https://www.high-voltage.cz/sortky/bliss-editor-trati-pro-stunts/ -- A post about Bliss on a Czech site. There is a Stunts tag there, and they even have held a race this year! I gotta add it to the Archive!

[Cas]

  Amazing!

How come so many other people are interested in Stunts and remain isolated from us?  We should be permanently exchanging our interests!  Anyway, it's great to see that it's not just us. There's plenty of life in Stunts still!

I have to admit I'm utterly surprised about the article on Bliss!  I thought my site was only visited by our community, but it looks like some random people do take a look from time to time... frequently enough for one of them to be willing to write an article on what they've found. I reckon it's more likely that they've got to Bliss via stunts.hu and then found the Dimioca link?  Who knows?

It's very clear, though, that no other community interested in Stunts is as large as ours. This whole thought makes me feel as if I were working at SETI in the 70s, wondering how empty or full of life the universe is and feeling amazed at every bubble I can hear popping in the aether

[Daniel3D]

Hi all,

after some clicking on old links i found a couple of abandoned remake efforts. Most don't even work.
but i found one that had potential, and may still have for research purposes.
It uses the old stunts 1.1 als resource to run. (don't know what, but won't run without)

https://hackage.haskell.org/package/stunts

Made a package (stunts-win32.rar) with the intended stunts version  (was not included)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1L2APFvmJO_TaCSiA2dmUCD9Y4IRiPIX7/view?usp=sharing

EDIT: ok, after playing it a few times with different cars and tracks i've come to the conclusion that it looks alright (the models and details are just as i would like them).
game play however........
#your game location#..\stunts-win32\stunts.exe" --car=10 --track=DEFAULT.TRK
just go forward (w) and wait.. 

[Duplode]

Time for a quick update:

https://www.v2.fi/artikkelit/pelit/3541/Retro-Rewind-Stunts-autopelihysteriaa/ -- A very nice Finnish review from 2021.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/21tMTHvRs8sIHxnb40mAhy?si=50cfd8bba4814ba2 -- A 2020 episode about Stunts on cd SPILL, a Norwegian podcast.

https://www.dosgameclub.com/forums/topic/stunts-4d-sports-driving-1990/ -- Stunts being suggested for an episode of a different podcast, in 2021.

https://www.kultboy.com/testbericht-uebersicht/287/ -- Scans of a few reviews from the 90s. There's a link to ZakStunts in the comments.

https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/lets-play-sega-games/2777/29 -- A vintage ZakStunts pipsqueak in the wild 

http://www.proaxis.com/~settlet/Stunts.html - a surviving page from the Kalpen days. I found it thanks to a link in an YouTube video uploaded by its author - in 2011!

After so many years, this page has gone offline. Luckily, the Wayback Machine was able to capture all the track collection zips. (By the way, the similarly long-lived page Daniel posted about a while ago is still going strong!)

after some clicking on old links i found a couple of abandoned remake efforts. Most don't even work.
but i found one that had potential, and may still have for research purposes.
It uses the old stunts 1.1 als resource to run. (don't know what, but won't run without)

https://hackage.haskell.org/package/stunts

Yup, that's a pretty cool demo indeed. I have borrowed their resource parsing code a couple times 

[Daniel3D]

after some clicking on old links i found a couple of abandoned remake efforts. Most don't even work.
but i found one that had potential, and may still have for research purposes.
It uses the old stunts 1.1 als resource to run. (don't know what, but won't run without)

https://hackage.haskell.org/package/stunts

Yup, that's a pretty cool demo indeed. I have borrowed their resource parsing code a couple times 

So. You understand how it uses the resources?

[Duplode]

So. You understand how it uses the resources?

Yup -- by "resource parsing code" I mostly meant this file, which reads the *.RES, *.3SH, etc. Haskell is my programming language of choice, and so I was lucky to have this at hand back when I needed to write a Melange repainting program very quickly.

[Daniel3D]

So. You understand how it uses the resources?

Yup -- by "resource parsing code" I mostly meant this file, which reads the *.RES, *.3SH, etc. Haskell is my programming language of choice, and so I was lucky to have this at hand back when I needed to write a Melange repainting program very quickly.

So.. i just realized..
If Haskell is your programming language of choice,then you could. If you wanted to and had the time. Transform it into an drivable stunts alternatieve.

[Duplode]

https://www.videospielgeschichten.de/ausgekramt-stunts/ -- Lovely review from 2021. In fact, from what I can glean with Google Translate, the site as a whole looks interesting. (It's a collective blog about gaming with something of a literary slant.)

https://www.stayforever.de/2021/10/stunts-sf-115/ -- One more podcast episode, this time in German, from 2021.

https://www.goodolddays.net/game/id%2C232/Stunts.html -- This one had already been unearthed by Daniel. I'd highlight how at some point there was a soundtrack remix available there, but unfortunately I can't find it anywhere now.

[dreadnaut]

I've found myself on the Stunts page on ModdingWiki, first mentioned in 2010.

Maybe it needs some more details about modding discoveries, we've gone so far