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Strongest race ever?

Started by BonzaiJoe, May 12, 2009, 12:38:27 AM

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Which race has been the strongest ever?

ZCT60
3 (42.9%)
ZCT79
1 (14.3%)
ZCT59
3 (42.9%)
ZCT20
0 (0%)
ZCT90
1 (14.3%)
Other
4 (57.1%)

Total Members Voted: 7

BonzaiJoe

I happened to browse some old scoreboards and came across ZCT60. I think it's the only track of which I can say I was happy to claim 6th place. Look at the top-7: it has 6 absolutely legendary names, and then a strong Chulk in his heyday beating three of them. It made me think: was this the strongest Stunts race ever? But I've come to think of some other really strong races too, which I have listed above. I'm not thinking about races with a really good winning replay (like every race in 2008) or where two pipsqueaks have had a strong duel (like ZCT35, Torino or ZCT89), but big races with lots of strong replays and an intense finish...
Please remind me of really good non-ZCT races too!
But we can't be quite sure.


CTG

Quote from: BonzaiJoe on May 12, 2009, 12:38:27 AM
Please remind me of really good non-ZCT races too!

From USC: Fehérvár, Pécs, Córdoba, Aggtelek, Gyula, Hatvan (MLR only 9th with Indy, +1.75 behind the winner!), Gyöngyös, Záhony...

Mark L. Rivers

Quote from: CTG on May 12, 2009, 11:57:51 AM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on May 12, 2009, 12:38:27 AM
Please remind me of really good non-ZCT races too!

From USC: Fehérvár, Pécs, Córdoba, Aggtelek, Gyula, Hatvan (MLR only 9th with Indy, +1.75 behind the winner!), Gyöngyös, Záhony...

I remember Hatvan, a CTG' track if I'm not wrong... yes, right, just checked on USC site...
Well, bad choice at the first twilight for me... Anyway, in June 2006 I was still learning.... and seeing the last USC race of that year (Zalaegerszeg) with the same car (Indy) it seems I learned quite quickly... ;)


CTG

Quote from: Mark L. Rivers on May 12, 2009, 02:58:05 PM
and seeing the last USC race of that year (Zalaegerszeg) with the same car (Indy) it seems I learned quite quickly... ;)

Sure you did! Come back and give a challenge to Duplode!

Duplode

#4
USC 07/08 had some splendid races and scoreboards: Ózd (maybe one of the absolute best, too bad it was my worst race ever  :D), Tarján (great fights with some very different solutions in the replays), Záhony (1.15 between 1st and 6th... :o)... As for the races in the poll, the only thing I'm not sure of is whether Z90 is at the same level of the others; maybe I would replace it for Z75 (despite the relatively low number of pipsqueaks). And I watched some replays of Z59/Z60 - brilliant!

BonzaiJoe

ZCT60 is also the track where I did the craziest stunt I have ever survived. See attached replay.
But we can't be quite sure.


Argammon

Depends how you define strongest. It's possible that the strongest race was one that involved boring but maxed out replays instead of fancy tricks. The latter fancy trick replays where proly not maxed out.

But then again, maybe their are fancy tricks the "max out" drivers missed? Take Z60 for example. If I remember correctly Renato did a trick in the end that I missed but I still won the track because I was faster "on the road". If I did his trick I might have saved few seconds. Basically you would need a track that includes fancy tricks AND was maxed out by several drivers.

Does that exist? I have no idea.  ::)

alanrotoi


CTG

Quote from: alanrotoi on June 21, 2009, 04:50:02 PM
zct14 :P

No way. ;D

ZCT 14 was a brilliant track and an exciting race with some revolutionary stuff in the replays, but it was really far from the strongest level.

alanrotoi

Then the only track I raced from the list is zct20 that I don't remember a big battle. A stronger battle for me war the one BJ won with Lamborgini zct19 or 18.

Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister

I've just noticed this topic. Answer is ZCT 16, ZCT 22, ZCT 35, Kalpen 2003A or Asunción.
Chürműű! :-)

3646.79 km

BonzaiJoe

True, those were good battles, but I don't agree about ZCT16 and ZCT35. 16 had a winning margin of 9 seconds... 35 had a tight battle between two really strong drivers, but not so much else going on. 59 and 60 are special because a lot of pipsqueaks made strong efforts and finished close together. That's also true for some of the others you mentioned. I don't remember Asuncion...
But we can't be quite sure.


Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister

Quote from: BonzaiJoe on August 27, 2009, 09:48:16 AM
True, those were good battles, but I don't agree about ZCT16 and ZCT35. 16 had a winning margin of 9 seconds... 35 had a tight battle between two really strong drivers, but not so much else going on. 59 and 60 are special because a lot of pipsqueaks made strong efforts and finished close together. That's also true for some of the others you mentioned. I don't remember Asuncion...

Asunción was an ISA/IRC track, built by me. I planned to make my strongest effort ever, played a lot, but only finished 4th because of other excellent replays. If there hadn't been for Rotoi's rpl, you would have agreed with ZCT16. You also mentioned that you thought you'd win with that 3rd place replay. 9 seconds on a powergear track sometimes mean only one plus trick, not an eternity. And if that trick is that crazy, then the other replays can be considered as very good quality rpls, too. I don't think that the race strength ratio should depend that much on the time gaps from the winner. I remember when we raced ZCT35, we talked on the chat that it is the strongest race ever. I guess 5th-6th place replays were as strong as 2nd-3rd place replays on other tracks. BÖFF!!!
Chürműű! :-)

3646.79 km

CTG

Quote from: Akoss Poo on August 27, 2009, 01:04:39 PM
I guess 5th-6th place replays were as strong as 2nd-3rd place replays on other tracks. BÖFF!!!

Poo, your position on the medal table is simply pathetic: 1-9-12 (13th place, right behind Fdzierva... which sounds like Brodzinski and Gvozdas... hmmm...)