The announcement

[CTG]

Soon

[zaqrack]

let me guess: 10000 posts and final retirement

[BonzaiJoe]

Anyway that would just be a BÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÔÖÖÖÖÖ................

[Duplode]

Anyway that would just be a BÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÔÖÖÖÖÖ................

That's a really important theoretical question!

Limits... those mathematical subtleties confuse me. Maybe we should consult Renato for an opinion?

[BonzaiJoe]

Congratulations on 10000 posts!

Now, only 89993 left before 100K

[alanrotoi]

haha "final retirement" in tetris online!!

[Overdrijf]

I have to announce something really important:

- 10000TH POST!!!
- FINAL RETIREMENT!!!
- BÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖ... !!!

But... back to reality, I have to announce that I don't want to announce anything. The only important thing I could say is probably a well-known one (already): I have a ghost... called...


Das Fass!!!

Cheers for 2011!!!

Haha, I beat you!

[CTG]

The real announcement, probably not an unexpected one:

Silver Spirit is fake: I am CTG, Navras is CTG, Zweigelt too. Please forget us, especially our "master". UnskilledStunts 2003-2008 was just a bizarre muppet show of a schizophrenic dumbass...

Account deleted.

[Spamologocomisso]

Only Mohammad nick is left, I forgot the password. Goodbye!

[Mark L. Rivers]

I initially thought that the silence was the best reply. No words for a such person.

But then, I started to remember to all the times he lied and how he was false, double-faced in a very thin mode. For example when he (with the Navras' hat) privately speaking against "CTG" trying to convince me to participate at the last race of USC 2007/2008 (Zahony) after I abandoned USC when I was first before to start the last track (championship then won by Dottore). Happy to have repeated to "Navras" the same things I had said him.
I always thought that he was "Dottore" (and I even argued privately about this thing with someone) but I didn't think about a so large deception. So all the worst thoughts I had expressed about him (for example here http://forum.stunts.hu/index.php?topic=2068.msg34616#msg34616) were right. Better, they were not bad enough.

Therefore I started to think that the silence would be almost like a gift for him, after all.

Let me say that this is really a pathetic end of a pathetic person. I hope he will soon deleted even from the memory of all of us.  

[alanrotoi]

I was far away from the community to know about all of it. I just would like to know more about you Mark or race against you.

[zaqrack]

I won`t comment much on the CTG-Dottore-Navras topic - I had my reasons staying away from USC, and feel really sorry about all the pipsqueaks who spent countless hours racing against ghosts. And I also feel sorry for CTG, who built an empire of shadows, and I cannot even imagine, what could have he achieved focusing his time and energy on something constructive.

Anyway, in the past months I have felt what probably many of you did - the community slowing down and dying step by step. After all, its a 20 year old game with more than 10+ years online racing history - it would not be a supirse if people just get bored of it.

But somehow now I feel a strange sense of hope and rebirth. Stunts racing will soon evolve into something different than before. Something more like a chess club in the park kept alive and fun by a few old friends - and a completely new generation (a revival group racing for glory and battle) -but not much connection between the two.  In fact, maybe it would be better to let a new generation evolve from a fresh start, and not tumbling in the steps of oldies with 10 years advance experience.
I hope my feelings do not deceive me. Anyway, you have all a place in my heart, my youth and my life, and that wont change.

[Duplode]

On this whole debacle, I will only put forward the point that I am entirely opposed to any kind of wholesale "cleansing" of historical records (CTG himself made that suggestion on the newsboard), although punctual redactions may be in order (USC 07-08 comes to mind). That for two reasons. First, because once history unfolds in a community like this one it acquires a certain character of reality that becomes hard to deny, or to distinguish from the pure fabrications that were (partially?) responsible for setting it into movement. And second, if even someone like me is finding it rather troublesome to draw a line in the sand, certainly it must be far tougher for those of you who, for instance, actually met Varga Peter.

(Hope this hasn't come out as too bizarre a way to expose my thoughts; it's just that I have a certain inclination to think in terms of our collective history)


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And folks: read closely the last paragraph of Zak's post. Right now I wish I had a bit more time to make more of a difference, but... I'll try and keep my hopes high  

[Mark L. Rivers]

A community is based on precise and irremovable pilasters: estimate, respect, trust.
Peter Varga was a fast Stunts driver. Stop here. No estimate for the others, except for some friends or,deceptively, in order to grab them to his sad self-incensing site. No respect for the others, in words and actions. About the trust I have not to say a word.
He deserves all our blame, because he USED this community to exalt himself, trampling all the members if they tried to shade his light. He deserves all our blame because he lied abusing enormously about our trust. He deserves all our blame because his behavior is not the result of a wicked moment: he has perseverate for years in USING others for his own egoistical intent.

Just think this one: if he will return one day saying " I'm back, I'm a new person, please reintegrate me in this community", who will welcome him trusting in his words? More, when we will see in the future a newbie that, even gradually, will climb the scoreboard with amazing results, who will be really sure he won't be Peter Varga under a new impostrously hat? Do you understand the damage he did in this community? Can really anyone underestimate the effect of his devastating actions? Can really anyone even only thinking to rehabilitate a such callous liar?

In every sport, for the highest illicitness the penalty is called "banishment". Often it's permanent, for life. Thinking to the voluntary and over-reiterated conduct full of insults, derisions, deceptions, lies perpetrated for years, and thinking to the damages he did at the community, I think that a permanent banishment from Stunts is what he deserves. And, please, no commiseration in order to encourage a reintegration. It would be really misplaced.

About CTG's results, I think it's good they remain. The name "CTG" will become a natural epigraph for all the future Stunts generations, a synonymous of "cheater", "liar", or "the driver who abused the trust of Stunts community members for years, risking to inflict a mortal shot to this pure and noble little world".

Finally, for the man Peter Varga I sincerly hope he will find in the future his right place in the real world, thinking to his errors and trying not to repeat them in order to avoid to rest alone as maybe he's now. But, about Stunts, there's not place anymore here for him.

My thought is that the hard job to keep alive this community also pass through adopting this firm and clear position.

[zaqrack]

Maybe I just got too used to the ghosts, spam and pipsqueak abuse throughout the years.
I must admit, I fully agree with Mark`s thoughts.