Stunts 30th anniversary | Ferrari Edition

[Daniel3D]

One question :  the color needle is present ?

Yes, the latest edition of the executable has support for individual colored needles.

[Ryoma]

Here is my last version of Fiorano. The length is about 3km (calculate with the average speed and lap time).

You can escape the track if you want to visit Fiorano and Maranello.

I don't know how to make a correct snapshot of the track to put here.

[Daniel3D]

In bliss you can save an image of the track.

[Ryoma]

It's ugly...

[Daniel3D]

It's difficult to make a track based upon a real one look interesting.
Try adding some hills. Place a village upon a hilltop.
Add some water.

And, looks are not that important anyway.
Crazy 8 wasn't very appealing either...

[Ryoma]

Try my Fiorano, the laptime and the length is very close to real (maybe need one or two more titles).

And I try to represent Fiorano and Maranello thanks to google Map.

[Ryoma]

http://www.gdecarli.it/php/circuit.php?var1=491&var2=2

[Ryoma]

I made an update of the Fiorano track (attached).
Now the real laptime of the track :
Ferrari 333 SP   1'11.90
Ferrari F40   1'29.60
Ferrari F355 F1   1'33.00
Ferrari F355   1'34.00   
Ferrari F512 M   1'35.00
Ferrari 512 TR   1'35.00
Ferrari 456 GT   1'35.00      
Ferrari 288 GTO   1'36.00
Ferrari Testarossa   1'36.00      
Ferrari 348 TB   1'37.00
Ferrari 328 GTB   1'44.00

I did similar time with these cars but I am not faster than you.

[Daniel3D]

The updated track looks better.

[Ryoma]

Ok, I will work on it

[Daniel3D]

For track time comparison you could also let an opponent drive. It has no elements to slow them down. I find it very challenging to beat skid when given a slight headstart.

[Ryoma]

Yes but without stunts element, Skid is very very fast...I am not sure that someone can win against him with the same car

[Daniel3D]

Yes but without stunts element, Skid is very very fast...I am not sure that someone can win against him with the same car

I'm not sure. But easy to find out. Bliss can calculate track times for several players.

So, Yes. Skid is definitely not slow. On tracks like this, I think he can be faster.
I got skid from a default 1:19:55 to a 1:10:75 by making him faster through corners. But the max speed you can set for any element is 200.
So straight is 200, large corner is 140 and sharp corner is 90. I don't know if that is actually reached, though.
If you go higher than 200 the opponent refuses to drive..

Setting all to 200 results in a time of 1:05:70.

[Cas]

The time estimation Bliss does is not very scientific, ha, ha. Still, I expect it to be reasonably good as long as you remain OWOOT and you calibrate your time with a track that has some diversity of obstacles.

I assigned each obstacle a coefficient that basically says how much more time it takes to traverse than a paved straightway. I didn't take the time to measure these times and besides, I know that they are not fixed values, but they will depend on many things, such as what was there before the obstacle. Also, even if a certain car is fast enough to execute a stunts in a certain amount of time, it may not be proportionally fast to execute another if it has a very bad grip compared to other cars.... etc.

The AIs in Stunts are also not human at all, so they tend to slow down at certain obstacles in a way and proportion very different from what a human pipsqueak would. It would be interesting for the effectiveness of these estimations to be studied to see how well or badly I've done it, ha, ha.

[Ryoma]

Maybe we can propose one version of Fiorano for raceforkick...and we will have an idea of the laptime ? And with one of these Ferrari :
Ferrari 333 SP   1'11.90
Ferrari F40   1'29.60
Ferrari F355 F1   1'33.00
Ferrari F355   1'34.00   
Ferrari F512 M   1'35.00
Ferrari 512 TR   1'35.00
Ferrari 456 GT   1'35.00     
Ferrari 288 GTO   1'36.00
Ferrari Testarossa   1'36.00     
Ferrari 348 TB   1'37.00
Ferrari 328 GTB   1'44.00