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Started by dreadnaut, February 06, 2022, 12:20:48 AM

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dreadnaut

I'm working on updated seasons standings. The global ones are ready, and they sit now at a new addresses which look like /seasons/2022, mirroring /racèrs/..., /tracks/ZCT..., etc.

That made me think:

  • should the Amateur table appear on the same page, or a separate one?
  • what should be the address of Teams and Amateur scoreboards? should I nest them under /seasons/2022/...?
  • what would you like to see at /seasons/; possibly a summary view of all ZakStunts seasons?
Fire your suggestions!

afullo

In my opinion, the Amateur table might appear on the same page. Regarding the next two items, I agree with you.

Cas

I think that a summary of all season would be the appropriate thing, as it's analogous of what happens with tracks (although tracks have a page per year.... for seasons, a page per decade?  :P). About the Amateur table, I'm not sure. I think that the guys that participate in the Amateur scoreboard should give their opinions about that instead.
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KyLiE

I think that:

  • The Amateur table should appear on the same page as the global table.
  • The address for the team standings should be nested under the season year.
  • A summary of all ZakStunts seasons would be nice.  Even a simple list would be useful.

dreadnaut

#4
The new team standings are up: http://zak.stunts.hu/seasons/2022/teams

There is a new column and tooltips for each track, showing participation compared to the team size. A 'star' marks races where the whole team took part in the race — too sleepy to come up with a better symbol :P

I'll let it stew for a few days, then start back-filling data for previous seasons (which are there, but show the old table). I have some doubt about the early seasons with Nascar points, I might need some custom code there.

[edit]
There's bug shared with the season standings, where sorting by track points shows only the rows for teams/pipsqueaks who took part in that race. Will fix.

KyLiE

Quote from: dreadnaut on March 21, 2022, 12:22:47 AM
There is a new column and tooltips for each track, showing participation compared to the team size.

I like it!  It's a nice addition.

dreadnaut

Quote from: dreadnaut on March 21, 2022, 12:22:47 AM
There's bug shared with the season standings, where sorting by track points shows only the rows for teams/pipsqueaks who took part in that race. Will fix.

That should be fixed now :)

Ryoma

About amateur my opinion is the always the same : one shot compétition and no season scoretable. The purpose is to have fun on one track....if you want more, you will be professionnal.

Daniel3D

Is it a option to add an off-season scoreboard after the race?
Essentially making all past race tracks a permanent track. (With shout-out option when uploading)
I'm missing a lot at the moment and would like to race and schare later. Maybe new players would also feel more comfortable starting off-season.
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I've successfully found 10,000 ways that will not work."
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dreadnaut

Quote from: Ryoma on April 06, 2022, 06:59:12 AM
About amateur my opinion is the always the same : one shot compétition and no season scoretable.

Can you point me to the earlier discussion where you mention this? I should catch up with those comments!

Quote from: Daniel3D on April 06, 2022, 08:18:21 AM
Is it a option to add an off-season scoreboard after the race?

I'd like to, and I have been working in that direction. ZakStunts however was not designed to do that, so it will take some time. Keeping compatibility with 20 seasons with 4-5 different rulesets is tricky!

afullo

Quote from: dreadnaut on March 21, 2022, 12:22:47 AM
I'll let it stew for a few days, then start back-filling data for previous seasons (which are there, but show the old table). I have some doubt about the early seasons with Nascar points, I might need some custom code there.

As I just observed in the shoutbox, this year, also non-integer scores (such as 0.10 for 13th place) are considered for the team standings, while usually they were regarded as zero. I don't think this would considerably change the previous rankings, but consistency with these tables, strictu senso, would probably be lost.

dreadnaut

Quote from: afullo on April 08, 2022, 11:29:25 AM
As I just observed in the shoutbox, this year, also non-integer scores (such as 0.10 for 13th place) are considered for the team standings, while usually they were regarded as zero.

That's interesting, looking at the original code, it did exclude any results smaller than one. I don't particularly feel the need for that limit, but it would be easier to continue applying the same rule. What do you all think?

a) team scores should only include results that bring a whole point or more, or
b) team scores should include all results, even fractional ones.

afullo

I vote a), for the sake of consistency.

KyLiE

I don't really mind either way, so since you said it was easier, I think you should continue applying the same rule:

Quote from: dreadnaut on April 08, 2022, 09:56:42 PM
team scores should only include results that bring a whole point or more

Daniel3D

Since I have never scored a whole point, so I've never contributed to my team. So I wouldn't mind if they count.
Edison once said,
"I have not failed 10,000 times,
I've successfully found 10,000 ways that will not work."
---------
Currently running over 20 separate instances of Stunts or 4D Sports Driving.