South American Qualifiers for South Africa 2010

[Krys TOFF]

T?ff: but you are the only French here, no spanish, no british pipsqueaks. Anyway YOU (ALMOST) NEVER TALK ABOUT THE MENTIONED CHAMPIONSHIPS. Why? Easy to say, hard to do?

Because the few times I tried to talk about it, you, Akoss and Usrin came back to talk about Hungarian championship. So I considered you didn't care and decided to follow these championships myself and keep my comments and feelings for me.
I still think that Spanish championship is the most interesting in Europe, followed by English one. 3rd is German one, 4th Italian one (the only interesting team in Italy is AS Roma that plays a good attack football, other teams play a way too much defense football to interest me) and French championship is only the 5th in interest in my opinion, mainly because best French players don't play in France because they earn more money in other countries.

[CTG]

Hungarian Division 5 is the most interesting with B?csa FC (my local team) and Felp?c SE ("deadly" rival). Or Division 7 with Cs?fodj?nosfa (worst team on Earth few years ago... )

[Chulk]

3rd round updated

ARG 3 - 0 Bol
COL 1 - 0 Ven
PAR 5 - 1 Ecu
Per  1 - 1 Bra
Uru  2 - 2 Chi

STANDINGS
Pos.  Team   GP   W    D   L   GF   GA   +/-   Pts.
1        Arg     3     3    0   0   7     0     7       9
2        Par     3     2    1   0   6     1     5       7
3        Bra     3     1    2   0   6     1     5       5
4        Col     3     1    2   0   1     0     1       5
5        Uru     3     1    1   1   7     3     4       4
6        Chi     3     1    1   1   4     4     0       4
7        Ven    3     1    0   2   1     3    -2       3
8        Per     3     0    2   1   1     3    -2       2
9        Bol     3      0   1   2   0     8    -8       1
10      Ecu     3     0    0   3   1    11   -10      0

[BonzaiJoe]

What's up with Ecuador? Didn't they get in the last 16 in the 2006 world cup?

[Chulk]

Yes, they did and qualify as 3rd in America. But some players retire and their subs are not that good. Anyway they fired their coach and won today 5 - 1 against Peru. (Update of 4th round in a while)

[CTG]

South American qualifiers are more interesting than in Europe. The worst teams are still good, I guess Peru or Ecuador are on the same level with Scotland or Denmark.

[Chulk]

VEN 5 - 3 Bol (Great game, very thrilling!)
COL 2 - 1 Arg (Colombia won 3 out of 3 when Argentina's coach was Basile )
ECU 5 - 1 Per
BRA 2 - 1 Uru (Uruguay deserved to win by 2 or 3 goals, but still the Scratch won )
Chi  0 - 3 PAR (They are the new leaders now)


STANDINGS
Pos.  Team   GP   W    D   L   GF   GA   +/-   Pts.
1        Par     4     3    1   0   9     1     8      10
2        Arg     4     3    0   1   8     2     6       9
3        Bra     4     2    2   0   8     2     6       8
4        Col     4     2    2   0   3     1     2       8
5        Ven    4     2    0   2   6     6     0       6
6        Uru     4     1    1   2   8     5     3       4
7        Chi     4     1    1   2   4     7    -3       4
8        Ecu     4    1    0   3   6     12   -6       3
9        Per     4     0    2   2   2     8    -6       2
10      Bol      4     0    1  3    3    13   -10      1

Next round (5th) will be played 14-15/June/2008
And 6th round just 2 days after that: 17-18/June/2008

[Krys TOFF]

10      Bol      4     0    1  3    3    13   -10      0

Bolivia got 1 draw, so they should have 1 point, not zero.

[Chulk]

10      Bol      4     0    1  3    3    13   -10      0

Bolivia got 1 draw, so they should have 1 point, not zero.

Yes, sorry. Conmebol's mistake (I copy paste their standings and make it clearer for Stunts forum). Already corrected.

[Duplode]

BRA 2 - 1 Uru (Uruguay deserved to win by 2 or 3 goals, but still the Scratch won )
Chi  0 - 3 PAR (They are the new leaders now)

True, our NT is rubbish at the moment, no progress at all since Germany. I am still wondering how Argentina could lose Copa America...

[Chulk]

BRA 2 - 1 Uru (Uruguay deserved to win by 2 or 3 goals, but still the Scratch won )
Chi  0 - 3 PAR (They are the new leaders now)

True, our NT is rubbish at the moment, no progress at all since Germany. I am still wondering how Argentina could lose Copa America...

I do too! I think our team was too overconfident because Brazil didn't have all their stars and they played with a "b" team. Anyway, it doesn't matter now.

[Chulk]

Finally Qualifiers resume!

5th round update:

Uruguay   1 - 1 Venezuela
Perú        1 - 1 Colombia
Paraguay  2 - 0 Brasil 
Argentina  1 - 1 Ecuador 
Bolivia      0 - 2 Chile

TEAM             GP  W  D   L   GF GA  +/-  Pts.

Paraguay           5    4   1   0   11  1   10    13
Argentina           5    3   1   1   9   3    6     10
Colombia            5    2   3   0   4   2    2      9
Brasil                5     2   2   1   8   4    4      8
Venezuela         5     2   1   2   7   7     0     7
Chile                5      2   1  2   6   7    -1     7
Uruguay            5     1   2   2   9   6     3     5
Ecuador            5     1   1   3   7  13   -6     4
Perú                5      0   3   2   3   9    -6     3
Bolivia               5     0   1   4   3  15  -12     1

6th round (17-18 / June)

Uruguay - Perú
Brasil - Argentina 
Bolivia - Paraguay
Ecuador - Colombia
Venezuela - Chile

*Correction: 5th will play against CONCACAF 4th for a place in WC South Africa 2010

[CTG]

Paraguay  2 - 0 Brasil 
Argentina  1 - 1 Ecuador 

Let's ask Dark Chaser and Duplode about this.

[Duplode]

Paraguay  2 - 0 Brasil 
Argentina  1 - 1 Ecuador 

Let's ask Dark Chaser and Duplode about this.

Nothing to be said other than noting this Brazilian NT - regardless of the presence or absence of Kaká, Ronaldinho, etc. - is the worst seen in my lifetime, beating even the '00-'01 squad back when Émerson Leão was the manager. One light-hearted appreciation of the matter is: considering the origing of our manager's nickname...

Dunga's nickname is Portuguese for Dopey, one of the Seven Dwarfs. Carlos' uncle gave him this nickname when he believed that Carlos would never grow to a tall stature.

... he'd better be called "Sleepy" instead, considering how his team performs.
In fact, the current situation is so embarassing and uncomfortable I am forced to admit I wouldn't feel so bad if logic prevailed and we lost tonight's match as long as it meant the immediate resignation/sacking of Dunga - unlikely scenario, however, with the Olympics a mere month ahead... As for the actual match, though, one must consider that for "some" reason Argentina lately always tends to go missing in action when facing us...

[Krys TOFF]

6th round (17-18 / June)

Uruguay - Perú
Brasil - Argentina 
Bolivia - Paraguay
Ecuador - Colombia
Venezuela - Chile

results :
Uruguay 6 - 0 Perú
Brasil 0 - 0 Argentina
Bolivia 4 - 2 Paraguay ( last winning versus the 1st)
Ecuador 0 - 0 Colombia

Venezuela - Chile will be played 20th of June.