Poll
Question:
FIFA Golden Ball 2012 - Who will win?
Option 1: Casillas
votes: 0
Option 2: Iniesta
votes: 2
Option 3: Messi
votes: 4
Option 4: Primadonna Girl (cr7)
votes: 2
England. Because I hate them.
Poo: Italy won't win. They are simply too weak.
LOL!!! ;D
(http://kiajobb.blog.nepsport.hu/files/2012/01/Real%20bwin.jpg)
I think the Neds will do it. Strange thing nobody picked Spain yet
Picking Spain is too boring. They are of course the biggest favourite, but I went for Germany. Germany vs Spain World Cup semi-final could have gone either way, and Germany is looking just as strong this year as in 2010.
This is a really, really strong European Championship... I'm almost willing to say it's the 16 strongest teams in Europe, and of course in many ways a stronger field than the World Cup, which has to include some not so great teams from other continents than Europa and South America. I can't wait to see Denmark's games in the group of death.
This group will have 6 big games:
Netherlands - Denmark
Germany - Portugal
Netherlands - Germany
Denmark - Portugal
Portugal - Netherlands
Denmark - Germany
All four teams in that group are in the top half of the 16 on the FIFA ranking list. Denmark is the lowest rated at #11. Netherlands, Germany, Portugal at #2, #3 and #7.
It's so laughable compared to group A:
Poland - Greece
Russia - Czech Republic
Czech Republic - Greece
Poland - Russia
Poland - Czech Republic
Greece - Russia
0 big games.
I guess even Hungary would have a chance versus Poland, Greece, Russia and Czech Republic...
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on January 21, 2012, 02:17:54 PM
I can't wait to see Denmark's games in the group of death.
Please let cry baby Clear Men C. Ronaldo out in round robin. I want to see him cry. And if you happen to be at Denmark - Portugal, please make the people start yelling MESSI everytime Ronaldo get's the ball
Or simply kill him.
(http://www.rantages.com/footyblog/files/2010/11/cristiano_ronaldo_sangre.jpg)
Juventus is leading Serie A at half time, and they are in the semi final of Coppa Italia. Finally, a good season for the Bianconeri. ;D
what is Euro 2012?
Foci EB... ;D
Quote from: CTG on January 20, 2012, 06:12:44 PM
LOL!!! ;D
(http://kiajobb.blog.nepsport.hu/files/2012/01/Real%20bwin.jpg)
Madrid & Barça all in one... !!! Terrible!
I'm afraid that championship is already gone - 7 pts difference is too much and maybe they are not enough hungry for the further victories.
Yes :-( Barcelona has had big trouble scoring goals in away matches this season. Too many draws. Maybe they need a more "cynical" ugly style of play against weaker teams on foreign soil.
It's really just a 4 pt difference. Barcelona will surely beat Real Madrid at Camp Nou. And it will depend on how far they reach in UCL and the matches they have. I don't think it's over just yet.
FVCK OFF REAL, DIE c.r.!!!
jejejeej, strangely this time i agree with CTG
CTG and Akoss Poo must be very happy about the current situation in the Champions' League...
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on February 22, 2012, 12:05:18 PM
CTG and Akoss Poo must be very happy about the current situation in the Champions' League...
You mean the Italy vs England duels? ;D
Yes, and the fact that there will probably be no English teams in the quarter-finals.
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on February 22, 2012, 12:05:18 PM
CTG and Akoss Poo must be very happy about the current situation in the Champions' League...
Yes, I am. :)
Good to see English teams out (especially Manchester United), and in the 1/8 finals, the remaining two are also close to get eliminated... :)
Now it would be good to see Bayern losing against Basel, but it sounds really impossible. :)
Next year it would be more interesting if Juventus manages to qualify. :)
Hungarian Cup, quarter-finals, first match:
Videoton (favorite team of Viktor Orbán, his son plays at Videoton's football academy ---> quite a rich since he's the prime minister ---> they get help from the refrees ---> they are the title holders of the championship) vs Györi ETO 5-1 :-\ (with two undeserved penalties)
FVCK OFF ORBÁN, FIDESZ, VIDEOTON AND DIRTY CHEATER CORRUPT HUNGARIAN FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION!
RMA should lose another two points (+the 'el clásico').
Go, dwarfs, go!!!
Quote from: CTG on April 10, 2012, 07:43:37 AM
RMA should lose another two points (+the 'el clásico').
Go, dwarfs, go!!!
Actually, losing only 1 + 'el derby´(Real Madrid's "Clasico" is Atletico Madrid) would suffice, as Barça would have the tie-breaker by winning both matches against RMA.
Quote from: Chulk on April 13, 2012, 10:33:27 AM
Quote from: CTG on April 10, 2012, 07:43:37 AM
RMA should lose another two points (+the 'el clásico').
Go, dwarfs, go!!!
Actually, losing only 1 + 'el derby´(Real Madrid's "Clasico" is Atletico Madrid) would suffice, as Barça would have the tie-breaker by winning both matches against RMA.
Yes, but it is impossible to lose only 1 point on a match. ;D
Quote from: Akoss Poo on April 13, 2012, 11:35:14 AM
Quote from: Chulk on April 13, 2012, 10:33:27 AM
Quote from: CTG on April 10, 2012, 07:43:37 AM
RMA should lose another two points (+the 'el clásico').
Go, dwarfs, go!!!
Actually, losing only 1 + 'el derby´(Real Madrid's "Clasico" is Atletico Madrid) would suffice, as Barça would have the tie-breaker by winning both matches against RMA.
Yes, but it is impossible to lose only 1 point on a match. ;D
Unless they are playing for a draw and they lose (while FCB plays a draw) - but it's not very likely in the current situation.
Quote from: CTG on April 13, 2012, 12:57:32 PM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on April 13, 2012, 11:35:14 AM
Quote from: Chulk on April 13, 2012, 10:33:27 AM
Quote from: CTG on April 10, 2012, 07:43:37 AM
RMA should lose another two points (+the 'el clásico').
Go, dwarfs, go!!!
Actually, losing only 1 + 'el derby´(Real Madrid's "Clasico" is Atletico Madrid) would suffice, as Barça would have the tie-breaker by winning both matches against RMA.
Yes, but it is impossible to lose only 1 point on a match. ;D
Unless they are playing for a draw and they lose (while FCB plays a draw) - but it's not very likely in the current situation.
That's not RMA losing a point, that is RMA getting 1 point less than FCB (so both teams needed to build this situation).
Quote from: Akoss Poo on April 13, 2012, 01:12:55 PM
Quote from: CTG on April 13, 2012, 12:57:32 PM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on April 13, 2012, 11:35:14 AM
Quote from: Chulk on April 13, 2012, 10:33:27 AM
Quote from: CTG on April 10, 2012, 07:43:37 AM
RMA should lose another two points (+the 'el clásico').
Go, dwarfs, go!!!
Actually, losing only 1 + 'el derby´(Real Madrid's "Clasico" is Atletico Madrid) would suffice, as Barça would have the tie-breaker by winning both matches against RMA.
Yes, but it is impossible to lose only 1 point on a match. ;D
Unless they are playing for a draw and they lose (while FCB plays a draw) - but it's not very likely in the current situation.
That's not RMA losing a point, that is RMA getting 1 point less than FCB (so both teams needed to build this situation).
In the mathematical meaning: you are right.
From the aspect of Mourinho (another realm, master of tactics and psychological war)... well... you know.
Hungarian championship, 6 rounds left:
1 Debrecen 56 pts (still unbeaten in this season)
2 Györi ETO 54 pts
3 Videoton 48 pts
Guess who will be the champion... (!hint the team of our prime minister)
Btw the remaining matches for the current podiumers:
Round 25
Debrecen - Kaposvár (13th, 24 pts)
Györi ETO - Diósgyör (6th, 34 pts)
Zalaegerszeg (16th, 8 pts, no victories so far...) - Videoton
Round 26
Kecskemét (5th, 38 pts) - Györi ETO
Diósgyör - Debrecen
Videoton - Ferencváros (9th, 30 pts)
Round 27
Kecskemét - Videoton
Györi ETO - Debrecen
Round 28
Debrecen - Pécs (7th, 34 pts)
Videoton - Györi ETO
Round 29
Györi ETO - Pécs
Budapest Honvéd (4th, 39 pts) -Debrecen
Videoton - Pápa (14th, 23 pts)
Round 30
Újpest (12th, 25 pts) - Videoton
Debrecen - Haladás (11th, 27 pts)
Pápa - Györi ETO
So:
ETO plays with: 6th, 5th, 1st, 3rd, 7th, 14th (average: 6.00)
Debrecen: 13th, 6th, 2nd, 7th, 4th, 11th (average: 7.17)
Videoton: 16th, 9th, 5th, 2nd, 14th, 12th (average: 9.67)
Is Videoton the same as FC Fehervar? And what happened to MTK Budapest?
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on April 17, 2012, 11:46:52 PM
Is Videoton the same as FC Fehervar? And what happened to MTK Budapest?
Yes, Videoton is FC Fehervar (was also known Parmalat FC). I hope they will svck, and I also hope that Györ will svck. Debrecen should be the Champion.
MTK Budapest was relegated last year to 2nd Division West (that was really same, they had good and talented young players, but the leaders of the team sold them to get more and more money, and the team got weakened). They are leading the table there at the moment.
Usrin's local team Szolnoki MÁV is the leader of 2nd Division East. Kazincbarcika is fighting there to avoid relegation to 3rd division Mátra (Northern Central) Group.
Bayern - Real 2-1
Chelsea - Barcelona 1-0
Hmmm... I thought UEFA wants to see el clásico in the final. Now I'm not so sure about that.
It's still most likely. These results are good for the TV viewcounts.
Chelsea is unbelievably fortunate throughout the whole series... I really hope that they will travel home from Barcelona with tears in their eyes after a 0-5 demolishment.
I hope Athletic Bilbao wins the champ. Because the coach Bielsa.
Quote from: alanrotoi on April 19, 2012, 10:36:32 PM
I hope Athletic Bilbao wins the champ. Because the coach Bielsa.
Athletic Bilbao is playing Europa League (former UEFA Cup) not Champions League
Europe League seems to be more interesting than CL - at least for me. Atletico Madrid was always one of my favorites and I think Bilbao deserves the respect for keeping the old traditions (only basque players).
It will be interesting with an Athletic vs Athletic final, because they are historically the same club. Atletico Madrid is just the Madrid franchise of the Bilbao club.
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on April 20, 2012, 06:08:30 PM
It will be interesting with an Athletic vs Athletic final, because they are historically the same club. Atletico Madrid is just the Madrid franchise of the Bilbao club.
I would be glad to see this final. I like Iberian teams in general (except RMA), so any finals will be relatively good for me compared to Newcastle United vs VfB Stuttgart (similar level teams, maybe it will really happen once).
Round 25
Debrecen - Kaposvár 3-0
Györi ETO - Diósgyör 2-0
Zalaegerszeg - Videoton 0-2
Hungarian championship, 5 rounds left:
1 Debrecen 59 pts (still unbeaten in this season)
2 Györi ETO 57 pts
3 Videoton 51 pts
That is something crazy, Debrecen and Juventus are still unbeaten as we are heading for the very end of the season. That mitigates the pain which was caused by the svck of my other favourite teams (like Kazincbarcika, Pittsburgh) and sportsmen this season.
BÖFF!!!
Chelsea - Bayern München: who cares about it?
Atletico Madrid - Athletic Bilbao: that's a match for me!
But who are you supporting? I also kind of like both teams, but I think I'll go for the Madrid franchise because the basques are too nationalistic.
As for Chelsea vs Bayern München, I definitely hope Bayern will win that one! Chelsea sucks, and frankly I think Bayern plays great football and they have a great "club spirit", like a real club that isn't only there because some oil billionaire decided he wanted some advertisement.
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on April 28, 2012, 10:08:48 AM
As for Chelsea vs Bayern München, I definitely hope Bayern will win that one! Chelsea sucks, and frankly I think Bayern plays great football and they have a great "club spirit", like a real club that isn't only there because some oil billionaire decided he wanted some advertisement.
I agree.
About the Bilbao vs. Madrid franchise, I want Bilbao to win. Main reason is that I just love Bielsa and how his teams always play offensively, even if winning by a large margin. Other minor reason is, given the fact that one club was born as a "piece" of the other, I want the original to win.
Sometimes you can see strange things in Serie A...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUYR9xW5VwM
Round 26
Diósgyör - Debrecen 0-2
Kecskemét - Györi ETO 2-0 :-\
Videoton - Ferencváros 2-0 >:(
Hungarian championship, 4 rounds left:
1 Debrecen 62 pts (still unbeaten in this season)
2 Györi ETO 57 pts
3 Videoton 54 pts
For BJ: MTK Budapest is leading the western division of second class (14 pts advantage, 6 rounds left). What about Aarhus?
Hey!
AGF is in an interesting situation. After being promoted to the "Superliga" last year, we are now in 5th place (of 12) in the league, with 42 points. Four rounds left for us. There's a bunch of teams with 35-39 points and who have played one match less, so it's a close battle. The interesting bit is that with the current situation, 5th place will probably be enough for Europa League qualification. So if we manage to finish 5th, we will play international games for the first time since an unsuccessful Toto Cup venture in 2001. Before that, I think our last international game was in 1997. So these could be new days in Århus. However, see if we don't mess it up during the last rounds.....
Yesterday's results:
AGF - Lyngby (11th) 2-1
FC Nordsjælland (2nd) - FC København (1st) 1-0
Now, after nearly four years of complete dominance, FCK is only 3 points ahead in 1st place with four rounds to go.
1 FC København 29 18 7 4 50-21 61
2 FC Nordsjælland 29 18 4 7 43-22 58
3 FC Midtjylland 28 14 6 8 43-36 48
4 AC Horsens 28 13 6 9 42-34 45
5 AGF 29 10 12 7 38-33 42
6 Silkeborg 28 10 9 9 44-39 39
7 SønderjyskE 28 10 8 10 39-42 38
8 AaB 28 9 8 11 36-39 35
9 Brøndby IF 28 8 9 11 31-36 33
10 OB 28 7 7 14 39-46 28
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11 Lyngby 29 6 4 19 28-52 22
12 HB Køge 28 4 6 18 28-61 18
1. Szolnoki MÁV FC 25 15 3 7 47–23 +24 48
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2. Egri FC 25 14 5 6 33–21 +12 47
3. Békéscsaba 1912 25 12 10 3 36–20 +16 46
4. Restart-Ceglédi VSE 25 12 4 9 37–34 +3 40
5. DVSC-DEAC 25 10 6 9 33–32 +1 36
6. Orosháza FC 25 9 9 7 39–32 +7 36
7. Mezökövesd-Zsóry 25 9 7 9 37–35 +2 34
8. Nyíregyháza Spartacus 25 7 13 5 36–38 –2 34
9. Balmazújváros 25 9 6 10 36–32 +4 33
10. Újpest FC II 25 9 6 10 38–52 –14 33
11. Dunakanyar-Vác 25 9 4 12 33–40 –7 31
12. REAC 25 8 7 10 37–38 –1 31
13. Kazincbarcikai SC 25 9 3 13 25–34 –9 30
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14. Szeged 2011 25 7 6 12 32–35 –3 27
15. Budapest Honvéd II 25 7 6 12 29–38 –9 27
16. Vecsési FC 25 3 7 15 18–42 –24 15
As can be seen, Kazincbarcika is in trouble. The team doesn't have much money, the players would form a mid-level team in this division, but rumours say that there's not too much motivation. The fate of the team depends on money, and there's not much of it in our region. Soon the Western and Eastern division will be united, and the team will sooner or later drop to third level (even if the farm teams of first division teams get eliminated from second division). Let's hope it won't happen this year.
About the battle on the top: Szolnok started to squander their lead, they lost 3 in a row without even scoring a goal, it seems they won't have enough money for getting promoted. Békéscsaba is uncertain, but Eger FC announced to go for the title and the division change. Yes, the city (which was visited by some Stunts räcers as well) seems to have the financial background.
Boca vs Velez comming soon...
After two victories:
HB Køge - AGF 1-3
AGF - Brøndby 5-1
we have a 6 point lead with 2 round left, which means we're very very close to playing international games again.
Here's hoping AGF gets to play Videoton FC, and win.
Did anyone else watch the end of the Premier League on Sunday? It's the craziest thing I've ever seen in football. I don't think I've ever seen a crowd of people so ecstatic as when Aguero scored that last goal in 4 minutes overtime. At least not in Europe :-)
Round 27
Györ - Debrecen 1-2 (our GK was crappy, he made two huge mistakes - both ended with a goal)
Kecskemét - Videoton 0-2
Round 28
Videoton - Györ 2-1 >:( (last three rounds: Videoton 9 pts, ETO 0 pt)
Debrecen - Pécs 4-0
Hungarian championship, 2 rounds left:
1 Debrecen 68 pts (champion)
2 Videoton 60 pts
3 Györi ETO 57 pts
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4 Budapest Honvéd 43 pts
So at least Orban FC didn't win the championship...
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on May 16, 2012, 09:18:12 AM
So at least Orban FC didn't win the championship...
Debrecen is one of the most stable Fidesz bases for ages, the team is strongly supported by the mayor of the city (Lajos Kósa, considerable person in Fidesz). They will build a new stadium partly from governmental budget...
Videoton: see earlier. They were too crappy to win the championship, even with the help of refrees.
Györi ETO: Györ was one of the bigger MSZP towns before 2006. The club is rather supported by industrial and financial business sponsors (and not politicans). Although Györ turned into orange lately, our mayor - even if he's a former olympic champion and the chairman of Hungarian Olympic Committee - doesn't really care about ETO. And he has quite a weak position in Fidesz compared to Kósa.
AGF and FC Féhervar are in the draw together and could play each other in EL Q2.
Round 29
Györi ETO - Pécs 3-0
Budapest Honvéd - Debrecen 0-3
Videoton - Lombard Pápa 2-0
Although ETO will finish on the podium, the 4th place will replace them in Europe League. Reason: they are disqualified from UEFA events in the next two seasons because of a player transfer affair.
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on April 17, 2012, 11:46:52 PM
Is Videoton the same as FC Fehervar? And what happened to MTK Budapest?
In the meantime, MTK advanced to the final of the Hungarian Cup, where they played against Debrecen. Debrecen didn't play their strongest team, and the situation became really hard for them. Debrecen won on penalties, but as they also won the championship, MTK got the "cup winner" place in Europe League.
Debrecen-MTK 3-3 (0-1, 3-3, 3-3) - 8-7 on penalties
Goals:
Könyves (45., 0-1)
Bouadla (51., 1-1)
Szakály (55., 2-1)
Ladányi (62., 2-2)
Zsidai (87., 2-3)
Szakály (89., 3-3)
Red card:
Nikolov (Debrecen), 60.
I found a video about the match about which people still talk sometimes in Kazincbarcika...
Playoff match to get promoted to top division between Budapest Honvéd and Kazincbarcikai Vegyész, second leg. First leg was 1-0 to Honvéd in Budapest, no away goal rule that time.
Summer of 1990, the biggest chance for a small team to do something special. Péter Lipcsei is in the home squad (later played in Porto, and iconic player of Ferencváros, Hungarian national team player many times), stadion sold out. My father attended the match.
You can see the outcome of the game here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9c5jiXbgYk&feature=related - Kazincbarcika in blue, Honvéd in white-red. Look at the first Honvéd goal, the commentator is constantly speaking about the terrible mistake of the referee - it's a huge offside, and the goal is allowed... My father told me about this goal many times... though the camera angle is not the best here, still it can be easily noticed...
By the way: are we interested in a Football ECH tipping game? (Something like the Football WCH tipping game two years ago.)
Quote from: Akoss Poo on June 01, 2012, 10:58:47 PM
By the way: are we interested in a Football ECH tipping game? (Something like the Football WCH tipping game two years ago.)
Yes we are
Quote from: Akoss Poo on June 01, 2012, 10:58:47 PM
By the way: are we interested in a Football ECH tipping game? (Something like the Football WCH tipping game two years ago.)
Of course!
Sounds good, three men within a short time. I'm waiting for more.
Should the 2010 method be used (just count the number of good tips), or should there be something new/more complicated? For example 3 pts for a correct tip, 2 for the goal differential correctly tipped, 1 for the correct tip of the outcome. Should we tip the medallist in advance, and get some bonus points for the correct medallist tips?
Kazincbarcikai SC managed to avoid relegation from 2nd division (NB II) Eastern group, though we lost 0-6 in Balmazújváros in the last round. 13th place reached. Relegated teams: Budapest Honvéd II (fortunately they lost in Nyíregyháza today), Rákospalotai EAC, Vecsés FC, they will play in NB III, (probably in the Danube Group).
Eger FC promoted to top division, they will play in NB I (top division) next year.
Quote from: Akoss Poo on June 02, 2012, 08:11:49 PM
Eger FC promoted to top division, they will play in NB I (top division) next year.
I'm very happy to see that, even if Szolnok was their main rival. But if a team fights for the 1st division with 300 silent 'fans' at their home matches, they don't deserve the victory. Sad but true: Szolnok is a basketball town, and it's not surprising that nobody wants to sponsor a football team there. (That's why they were afraid of promoting to 1st division, and lost many points in spring to avoid that.)
Not least: Eger is one of my favourite Hungarian towns (maybe the best one), and FC Eger-Tengely-Közmü was one of my favourite teams long ago, when they were not so good, but played 14 draws of 26 matches in a season: http://www.magyarfutball.hu/hu/bajnoki-vegeredmeny/539 (Team name is not correct, they were called FC Eger-Egertej only until the previous season.)
Quote from: Akoss Poo on June 02, 2012, 08:11:49 PM
Sounds good, three men within a short time. I'm waiting for more.
Should the 2010 method be used (just count the number of good tips), or should there be something new/more complicated? For example 3 pts for a correct tip, 2 for the goal differential correctly tipped, 1 for the correct tip of the outcome. Should we tip the medallist in advance, and get some bonus points for the correct medallist tips?
One vote for the 3-2-1 pts version and medallist tips.
I also vote for the 3-2-1-0 version plus the medallist prediction. Waiting for opinion of the others. In 2010, we had Rotoi, BJ, CTG and Gutix as well, I hope they will join again. Of course other stuntsers can enter and tell his opinion about scoring system as well.
To quicken things, I recommend the following:
24 group matches, 3 points for tipping the exact result of a match, 2 for the goal differential, 1 for the outcome, 0 for incorrect tip.
Knockout phase:
7 matches, 3-2-1-0 for the outcome (considering the result after 90 minutes), +1 point for tipping the advancing team (a.) because these matches are more important, a higher scoring for these matches are deserved b.) extra time / penalty shootout winning can also be tipped and point can be gained for it).
Thus, a maximum score of 100 points can be got (31*3 + 7*1).
Bonus point awards:
finished gold silver bronze
tipped
gold 10 2 1
silver 2 7 1
bronze 1 1 3
That's because a gold medal right tipping is a bigger deal and two bronze medals will be awarded.
Medal tipping: before starting whistle of first match.
Match tipping: before the starting whistle of the given match.
Those who are rarely here on the forum I recommend to come here more often or to tip many matches in advance.
What's your opinion?
Quote from: Akoss Poo on June 02, 2012, 10:00:49 PM
I also vote for the 3-2-1-0 version plus the medallist prediction. Waiting for opinion of the others. In 2010, we had Rotoi, BJ, CTG and Gutix as well, I hope they will join again. Of course other stuntsers can enter and tell his opinion about scoring system as well.
To quicken things, I recommend the following:
24 group matches, 3 points for tipping the exact result of a match, 2 for the goal differential, 1 for the outcome, 0 for incorrect tip.
Knockout phase:
7 matches, 3-2-1-0 for the outcome (considering the result after 90 minutes), +1 point for tipping the advancing team (a.) because these matches are more important, a higher scoring for these matches are deserved b.) extra time / penalty shootout winning can also be tipped and point can be gained for it).
Thus, a maximum score of 100 points can be got (31*3 + 7*1).
Bonus point awards:
finished gold silver bronze
tipped
gold 10 2 1
silver 2 7 1
bronze 1 1 3
That's because a gold medal right tipping is a bigger deal and two bronze medals will be awarded.
Medal tipping: before starting whistle of first match.
Match tipping: before the starting whistle of the given match.
Those who are rarely here on the forum I recommend to come here more often or to tip many matches in advance.
What's your opinion?
Me likes!
Poland - Greece 1-1
Russia - Czech Republic 2-1
Netherlands - Denmark 4-1
Germany - Portugal 0-1
Spain - Italy 0-0
Ireland - Croatia 1-0
France - England 1-1
Ukraine - Sweden 0-1
We could also just make a league here:
http://www.sportguru.co.uk/euro2012/player_home.asp
So you don't have to count all the points manually.
Well, since I'm going to count the points, you needn't invest more by submitting the tips here. It worked two years ago, it may work this time as well - let us not kill the Stunts Forum atmosphere. Of course only if you accept it.
To follow CTG, I'm tipping the medallists here:
1 Germany
2 Spain
3 England
3 Netherlands
Somehow I can't feel any big surprises now, but I might be wrong...
Sure, I'll join. Predictions coming up.
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on June 04, 2012, 10:53:06 PM
Sure, I'll join. Predictions coming up.
Happy to hear so!
Poland - Greece 1-0
Russia - Czech Republic 2-2
Netherlands - Denmark 2-0
Germany - Portugal 3-1
Spain - Italy 2-0
Ireland - Croatia 1-1
France - England 0-0
Ukraine - Sweden 1-1
Edited on June 7.
Whoa, re-edited after reading the rules and finding out correctly predicted draws are worth 2 points instead of 1 :-)
1. Germany
2. France
3. Spain
4. Netherlands
I am in too! Here are my initial clueless tips.
Medallists:
1. Germany
2. Spain
3. Netherlands
4. France
Round 1:
Poland - Greece 1-0
Russia - Czech Republic 1-0
Netherlands - Denmark 2-1
Germany - Portugal 2-0
Spain - Italy 2-0
Ireland - Croatia 0-1
France - England 1-0
Ukraine-Sweden 1-1
Medallists:
1. Spain
2. Germany
3. Netherlands
4. France
Round 1:
Poland - Greece 1-0
Russia - Czech Republic 1-0
Netherlands - Denmark 1-0
Germany - Portugal 1-1
Spain - Italy 1-0
Ireland - Croatia 0-1
France - England 1-1
Ukraine-Sweden 1-1
Here's an important question:
Let's say I predict a game to end 1-1
It ends 0-0
This means I get 2 points for predicting the goal difference right? So draws always get you at least 2 points because the goal difference is always zero?
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on June 07, 2012, 11:02:20 AM
Here's an important question:
Let's say I predict a game to end 1-1
It ends 0-0
This means I get 2 points for predicting the goal difference right? So draws always get you at least 2 points because the goal difference is always zero?
Of course, it goes this way in all prediction games I've ever seen (not only Hungarian ones)...
Here are my tips for first round of group stage and my podium candidates.
Podium candidates:
1. Netherlands
2. Germany
3. Spain
4. England
Round 1:
Poland - Greece 1-0
Russia - Czech Republic 1-1
Netherlands - Denmark 3-1
Germany - Portugal 2-1
Spain - Italy 1-1
Ireland - Croatia 0-1
France - England 2-2
Ukraine-Sweden 1-1
Maybe we could tip for top scorer too? Even if no points are awarded for this, my bet is on Van Persie.
Okay, I'm guessing Benzema.
Poland - Greece 1-1
Russia - Czech Republic 1-1
Netherlands - Denmark 3-1
Germany - Portugal 2-2
Top goalscorer (btw 2 points bonus for it?): Gómez
Quote from: CTG on June 03, 2012, 11:39:31 PM
Poland - Greece 1-1
Russia - Czech Republic 2-1
Netherlands - Denmark 4-1
Germany - Portugal 0-1
Spain - Italy 0-0
Ireland - Croatia 1-0
France - England 1-1
Ukraine - Sweden 0-1
1 England
2 Netherlands
semi-finalist: Spain, Germany
Top scorer: Van Persie and Rooney (4-4)
Quote from: Duplode on June 05, 2012, 05:03:22 PM
I am in too! Here are my initial clueless tips.
Medallists:
1. Germany
2. Spain
3. Netherlands
4. France
Round 1:
Poland - Greece 1-0
Russia - Czech Republic 1-0
Netherlands - Denmark 2-1
Germany - Portugal 2-0
Spain - Italy 2-0
Ireland - Croatia 0-1
France - England 1-0
Ukraine-Sweden 1-1
Top scorer: Van Persie
After first day:
1 CTG 4 (3+1)
2 Akoss Poo 3 (3+0)
3 Duplode 1 (0+1)
3 Usrin 1 (0+1)
5 Bonzai Joe 0 (0+0)
5 Chulk 0 (0+0)
Impressing start by Russia. Or is the Czech Republic that weak? Even Hungary beat them a few days ago...
I was sleeping during the first match today...
Quote from: Akoss Poo on June 08, 2012, 10:44:31 PM
Impressing start by Russia. Or is the Czech Republic that weak? Even Hungary beat them a few days ago...
Really impressive. I was doubtful wether to bet on a draw or a Russian victory in my tips, but I never thought this would be the result... Maybe Czech is really that weak, I have problems tipping on their games because I have a personal love for them. Actually, I loved Nedved back when he was active and was very happy when they won Eurocup. I even use Czech Republic in every football game I play...
Quote from: Chulk on June 09, 2012, 12:48:14 AM
Actually, I loved Nedved back when he was active and was very happy when they won Eurocup.
Won? You mean CZE finished 2nd in 1996.
Quote from: CTG on June 09, 2012, 01:26:26 AM
Quote from: Chulk on June 09, 2012, 12:48:14 AM
Actually, I loved Nedved back when he was active and was very happy when they won Eurocup.
Won? You mean CZE finished 2nd in 1996.
Yes, sorry. I meant 3rd place in 2004 (Greece won that)
Football mafia exists... boring match, NED did not fight... the result is known...
Today Chulk earned 2 points, while Bonzai Joe and Duplode 1 each.
Standings:
1 CTG 4
2 Akoss Poo 3
3 Duplode 2
3 Chulk 2
5 Usrin 1
5 Bonzai Joe 1
Pre-arranged win for DEN, lucky win for GER.
For tomorrow:
Spain-Italy 3-0
Ireland-Croatia 0-0
About top scorer bet... how is CTG's bet counting? He gets the 2 points only if both Van Persie and Rooney finish atop the top scorer table? Let's clarify this now before it's too late: If he gets points by any of them, then it would be fair if the rest could add a second bet...
It's like he had two halves of bet. If he has a 100% correct bet, he earns 2 points (while those who only tipped one of the scorers as top scorer, earns only 1 point). If only one of his bets is correct (someone wins it alone), then he earns 1 point (while those who tipped him as top scorer alone, earns 2 points). I think this is the most correct scoring method.
Quote from: Akoss Poo on June 09, 2012, 10:42:40 PM
Today Chulk earned 2 points, while Bonzai Joe and Duplode 1 each.
Standings:
1 CTG 4
2 Akoss Poo 3
3 Duplode 2
3 Chulk 2
5 Usrin 1
5 Bonzai Joe 1
Pre-arranged win for DEN, lucky win for GER.
That really must have been expensive. And Robin van Persie is very good at hitting the post from the edge of the penalty area.
Since I hate the Oranje and c.r., the last two matches made me really satisfied. ;D
Well, a surprisingly good, enjoyable and open match! Grats, Italy! Most of the people thought about an easy win for Spain or a boring draw (including me), but the game showed something different. Best match of the tournament so far!
3 well deserved points for Chulk, 2 for CTG (but I think he thought about a different kinda match), 0 for others (including me).
Quote from: Akoss Poo on June 09, 2012, 10:42:40 PMPre-arranged win for DEN, lucky win for GER.
They didn't throw that one for Denmark, they just want to be able to sell the movie rights, which means they can't start winning untill they absolutely have to.
Argentina 4 - Brazil 3.... no more to say :)
Quote from: alanrotoi on June 10, 2012, 10:13:38 PM
Argentina 4 - Brazil 3.... no more to say :)
Meeeeeeeeeeessi, Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessi!!! ;D (lesson one: how to make cr mad?)
Lessons so far:
Russia looking very strong and definitely a contender for the title. Rest of group A is a toss-up.
Denmark is in very good shape and has a chance of getting in the quarter finals
Netherlands will really have to fight for it
Ireland is dead
Spain is not as strong as in 2010
Italy is also an outsider for the title
Russia could beat the weakling Czechs, not a big deal (although I like the russian team). Their group is way too easy, so the first serious match will be the quarter-final for them.
Denmark is a good team without great stars, while the Dutch eleven is too high and mighty - result is not so surprising. But I guess DEN won't be in the best 8. Portugal with cr is a joke, just as expected.
Italy is stronger than in 2010, Spain should show up something new to beat Croatia (and no Torres, please, he's slow and selfish). Ireland did not deserve to qualify.
If only Villa was playing for Spain, I would have got the outcome of that match! Actually, if any forward other than Torres had played for Spain I would have got it correct. I never knew what people saw in this guy...
I took the liberty to update the standings. If it bothers you, Akoss, I won't do it anymore.
Standings:
1 CTG 6
2 Chulk 5
3 Akoss Poo 3
4 Duplode 2
5 Usrin 1
5 Bonzai Joe 1
Quote from: alanrotoi on June 10, 2012, 10:13:38 PM
Argentina 4 - Brazil 3.... no more to say :)
I wonder about Duplode's opinion.
Quote from: Chulk on June 11, 2012, 01:55:02 AM
If only Villa was playing for Spain, I would have got the outcome of that match! Actually, if any forward other than Torres had played for Spain I would have got it correct. I never knew what people saw in this guy...
Even Raul would be a better choice, he has the sense to score.
I think Torres has played his last minutes in this tournament. Of course the problem is that the alternatives aren't that strong either, but still they must be better.
I can't believe how much patience Torres has been given. Because he was so good in 2008-2009, both Chelsea and Spain keep using him, hoping that suddenly he will be good again, but for years it hasn't happened...
Quote from: Chulk on June 11, 2012, 02:00:10 AM
I took the liberty to update the standings. If it bothers you, Akoss, I won't do it anymore.
Standings:
1 CTG 6
2 Chulk 5
3 Akoss Poo 3
4 Duplode 2
5 Usrin 1
5 Bonzai Joe 1
Of course you can help me counting. But next time, pay more attention, Duplode has 3 points instead of 2.
1 CTG 6
2 Chulk 5
3 Akoss Poo 3
3 Duplode 3
5 Usrin 1
5 Bonzai Joe 1
Some remarks:
- the team which starts too good, often falls through the end... that's why I thought Germany would start with a draw against Portugal for example
- Russia looks good, but it looks the usual story... I think they will fall before the medal rounds
- I haven't seen anything special from Europe's top forwards... will a relatively no name player top the scoring list in the end maybe?
- Ireland simply too weak for this tournament... they got this ECH participation as a present after the France match two years ago (easy qualification group, lucky qualification, Estonia as playoff opponents, Kassai as referee, two Estonian red cards, undeserved Irish penalty etc.)... but oh, my God, why... even Croatia took an easy win against them
- BJ: I think at the current situation in Italian football, they haven't come for the title... this is by far the weakest Italian team I've ever seen, let alone the scandal in the country... decent performance from them, and I think a quarter final berth would be sufficient for them at the moment
- I think Spain will qualify for sure, Ireland won't, CRO-ITA for the group second place... Spain is still very strong, and the tournament is long, they can capitalize on getting into their stride later
- I can still see Germany or Spain winning the tournament
- I can still see a strong Dutch team... but they need to strive very hard now to qualify
Looking forward to the big clash between France and England tonight.
My tips are the following:
France - England 1-2
Ukraine - Sweden 1-0.
A long range goal at last!!! Go, France, smash the English! BÖFF!!!
Sorry. I used this post
Quote from: Akoss Poo on June 09, 2012, 10:42:40 PM
Today Chulk earned 2 points, while Bonzai Joe and Duplode 1 each.
Standings:
1 CTG 4
2 Akoss Poo 3
3 Duplode 2
3 Chulk 2
5 Usrin 1
5 Bonzai Joe 1
Pre-arranged win for DEN, lucky win for GER.
For tomorrow:
Spain-Italy 3-0
Ireland-Croatia 0-0
And added the points from this post:
Quote from: Akoss Poo on June 10, 2012, 07:53:13 PM
Well, a surprisingly good, enjoyable and open match! Grats, Italy! Most of the people thought about an easy win for Spain or a boring draw (including me), but the game showed something different. Best match of the tournament so far!
3 well deserved points for Chulk, 2 for CTG (but I think he thought about a different kinda match), 0 for others (including me).
So I thought Duplode has 2 points... where am I missing the extra point?
Quote from: Chulk on June 11, 2012, 08:46:15 PM
Sorry. I used this post
Quote from: Akoss Poo on June 09, 2012, 10:42:40 PM
Today Chulk earned 2 points, while Bonzai Joe and Duplode 1 each.
Standings:
1 CTG 4
2 Akoss Poo 3
3 Duplode 2
3 Chulk 2
5 Usrin 1
5 Bonzai Joe 1
Pre-arranged win for DEN, lucky win for GER.
For tomorrow:
Spain-Italy 3-0
Ireland-Croatia 0-0
And added the points from this post:
Quote from: Akoss Poo on June 10, 2012, 07:53:13 PM
Well, a surprisingly good, enjoyable and open match! Grats, Italy! Most of the people thought about an easy win for Spain or a boring draw (including me), but the game showed something different. Best match of the tournament so far!
3 well deserved points for Chulk, 2 for CTG (but I think he thought about a different kinda match), 0 for others (including me).
So I thought Duplode has 2 points... where am I missing the extra point?
He has three points for three right outcome tips: Russia won, Germany won and Croatia won.
The tips you quoted were mine, I deserve 0 point for them.
Well, I put all the tips and scores and results into one Excel table, and the standings are:
1 Chulk 8 pts (0-0-0-2-3-1-2-0)
2 CTG 8 pts (3-1-0-0-2-0-2-0)
3 Akoss Poo 5 pts (3-0-0-0-0-0-0-2)
3 Usrin 5 pts (0-1-0-0-0-1-3-0)
5 Duplode 3 pts (0-1-0-1-0-1-0-0)
5 Bonzai Joe 3 pts (0-0-0-1-0-0-2-0)
WAITING FOR SECOND ROUND TIPS!!!
Key impressions: Italy will go further than we first thought. Germany didn't quite set the world alight against a mediocre Portugal, but Akoss' comments about teams starting too strongly makes sense in this case. Spain do look slightly more vulnerable this time, and Torres, well... ::) (BTW, not that I follow La Liga ATM, but I have heard good things about Fernando Llorente.)
*Predictions for Round 2*
Greece - Czech Rep. 1-1
Poland - Russia 2-1 (A little optimism won't hurt 8))
Denmark - Portugal 1-0
Netherlands - Germany 2-2
Italy - Croatia 2-0
Spain - Ireland 1-0
Ukraine - France 1-1
Sweden - England 0-1
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P.S.:
Quote from: CTG on June 11, 2012, 08:27:32 AM
Quote from: alanrotoi on June 10, 2012, 10:13:38 PM
Argentina 4 - Brazil 3.... no more to say :)
I wonder about Duplode's opinion.
I can only recommend you to ask us again about that in a little while - 761 days and 20 hours, to be more precise ;)
(On a slightly more serious note: in spite of the wholly inconsequential result against our dear neighbours and of the not very inspiring performance against Mexico, this was the first run of games in a long while in which we demonstrated signs of real strength. I might even repeat the party line - "wow, these relatively inexperienced players made a really good impression, they will be key in 2014 blah blah" - weren't it for being so used to seeing the reasons behind the good impressions vanishing as soon as the players become a little more experienced with the NT...)
Quote from: Akoss Poo on June 11, 2012, 08:55:40 PM
He has three points for three right outcome tips: Russia won, Germany won and Croatia won.
The tips you quoted were mine, I deserve 0 point for them.
I didn't mean the tips, I meant he had 2 points in the first post and then you said 3 points for me, 2 for CTG and 0 for the rest (that includes Duplode). So 2+0 is 2. I missed the post where you gave Duplode that extra point for Croatia victory...
2º round tips:
Greece - Czech Rep. 2-1
Poland - Russia 1-2
Denmark - Portugal 1-1
Netherlands - Germany 2-2
Italy - Croatia 2-1
Spain - Ireland 2-0
Ukraine - France 1-2
Sweden - England 0-1
Greece - Czech Rep. 1-1
Poland - Russia 0-1
Denmark - Portugal 0-1
Netherlands - Germany 2-1
Italy - Croatia 1-1
Spain - Ireland 3-0
Ukraine - France 1-2
Sweden - England 0-1
2nd round:
Greece - Czech Rep. 1-1
Poland - Russia 1-2
Greeks can't repeat the performance they've shown against Poland (they could do it on 1 match of 10). Czechs will catch their only chance for getting a point at the tournament.
Poland will do their best against their traditional enemy at home, but that won't be enough.
Denmark - Portugal 0-1
Netherlands - Germany 1-1
I don't expect too enjoyable matches in this group. The Dutch will be too stressed because they would really need 3 points, and that's why they won't show their best form. Germany will play for a draw successfully.
Italy - Croatia 1-1
Spain - Ireland 1-0
Italy and Croatia has about the same strength, and they won't make it to a decision. Spain will attack for 90 mins, and will have 80% ball possession against an extremely defensive Irish team (fighting for 0-0), but maybe they won't be able to score more than once.
Ukraine - France 1-1
Sweden - England 1-1
Briefly: I don't believe that France and England are really strong today. Ukraine (at home) and Sweden (fighting hard for keeping some chance) can be enough for a draw against them.
Czech Republic - Greece 0-1
Poland - Russia 2-2
Greece, with the hope of a quarter final, will play defensively with a strong determination. The disillusioned Czechs will not have what it takes to break through. Poland with home advantage is going to fight very hard, and Russia will be okay with a draw.
Denmark - Portugal 1-2
Netherlands - Germany 0-1
Portugal is pressured to win, so they will put in a greater effort than in the last game, which will be too much for Denmark. Netherlands have shown that they are not the team they used to be, so efficient Germany will pull in a 0-1 victory with a goal in the 82nd minute.
Spain - Ireland 3-0
Italy - Croatia 1-0
Ireland is one level below nearly every other team in the tournament. The Spanish offensive had some difficulties against the strong Italian defensive, but against Irish players from obscure PL-teams, they will dominate completely and score several times. Italy will win a tight match with Croatia.
England - Sweden 1-1
Ukraine - France 0-0
England always scrambles through in the group stage. Sweden will fight for their honour and get their only point in the tournament. France is a very inefficient team, but they have not lost in 22 games and they will not lose against a brave Ukrainian team giving everything they have.
Quote from: Usrin on June 12, 2012, 09:49:06 AM
2nd round:
Greece - Czech Rep. 1-1
Poland - Russia 1-2
Greeks can't repeat the performance they've shown against Poland (they could do it on 1 match of 10). Czechs will catch their only chance for getting a point at the tournament.
Poland will do their best against their traditional enemy at home, but that won't be enough.
Denmark - Portugal 0-1
Netherlands - Germany 1-1
I don't expect too enjoyable matches in this group. The Dutch will be too stressed because they would really need 3 points, and that's why they won't show their best form. Germany will play for a draw successfully.
Italy - Croatia 1-1
Spain - Ireland 1-0
Italy and Croatia has about the same strength, and they won't make it to a decision. Spain will attack for 90 mins, and will have 80% ball possession against an extremely defensive Irish team (fighting for 0-0), but maybe they won't be able to score more than once.
Ukraine - France 1-1
Sweden - England 1-1
Briefly: I don't believe that France and England are really strong today. Ukraine (at home) and Sweden (fighting hard for keeping some chance) can be enough for a draw against them.
That's very persuasive. After reading this, I want to make the same predictions as you. Instead, I'll edit my own post to make post-rationalizing arguments for my own predictions, even though they are in fact almost completely arbitrary (I've predicted the 'second most likely' results compared to what I've predicted in another prediction game, which is how I actually think the matches will end)
I was very busy today, I can submit my tips only now.
For today:
Czech Republic - Greece 0-1
Poland - Russia 1-1.
Czech Republic seems to be the second weakest team in the tournament after Ireland...
Italy... well, they are better and more organized than it could be expected, but I still can't imagine them in the semi finals... they have Buffon in the goalie with a decent defence (who has ever seen a bad Italian defence?), but as for the offensive part of the team... they lack world class players (unlike in the past decades), it is very Pirlo-dependent, and still, we haven't talked about strikers... Di Natale is good, but not as good to be the top forward of a medal contender. And the others are not better either... Balotelli is just a clown...
Prediction: hard fought quarter final or 3rd place in the group.
Go Russia... I need those points! :D
Only 2 point-scoring tips out of 12 on Stunts Forum for today's 2 matches. Fortunately, one of them was mine (3 points for POL-RUS 1-1). BJ also earned 2 points (he tipped POL-RUS 2-2).
1 Chulk 8 pts (0-0-0-2-3-1-2-0-0-0)
1 CTG 8 pts (3-1-0-0-2-0-2-0-0-0)
1 Akoss Poo 8 pts (3-0-0-0-0-0-0-2-0-3)
4 Usrin 5 pts (0-1-0-0-0-1-3-0-0-0)
4 Bonzai Joe 5 pts (0-0-0-1-0-0-2-0-0-2)
6 Duplode 3 pts (0-1-0-1-0-1-0-0-0-0)
Btw Greece would have deserved a point against Czech Republic - they fought hard and their disallowed goal should have counted. Though, Russia and Poland played a better game, a realistic result the draw is, I think I saw the two qualifying teams there.
It seems we won't score any points for tipping the top goalscorer...
Denmark - Portugal 2-3
Netherlands - Germany 1-1 (though I can imagine any outcome for this game)
It was a more exciting day than others had thought...
The Dutch are in trouble! I thought around the 60th minute that they want to get their coach fired... But then they start to put pressure on the Nationalelf... But Germany was really good today. They played like the Netherlands (...) when they needed simple but efficient offensive football, they played like FC Barcelona when they needed to possess the ball as much as possible (mid second period, it was such unusual from the German team), and they played like Italy when that was needed: they killed football and time in the end... I wonder if they can qualify, if Germany doesn't take the game against Denmark seriously, they have no chance...
When I reached the point/match ratio, I remained scoreless again...
The Dutch struggle is all part of the plan to sell the movie rights. Germany has been bribed to beat Denmark. Portugal is going to get ahead 1-0, but then in the break van Marwijk is going to give an incredibly motivating speech (well, he's going to do so in the movie version anyway, in the live version we can't hear him) and the Dutch will score 3 times, while the audience starts humming a rock ballad. Then the rest of the games untill either the finale or the next match against Germany are going to be played in montage style, where nothing happens except for a few brilliant moments they'll be able to edit together.
That's the plan, honest, they are absolutely not just really bad.
Tipping game table updated (BJ was the best yesterday, got 4 points, I had 3, CTG and Usrin earned 2 each, while Chulk and Duplode remained scoreless.
1 Akoss Poo 11 pts (3-0-0-0-0-0-0-2-0-3-3-0)
2 CTG 10 pts (3-1-0-0-2-0-2-0-0-0-2-0)
3 Bonzai Joe 9 pts (0-0-0-1-0-0-2-0-0-2-2-2)
4 Chulk 8 pts (0-0-0-2-3-1-2-0-0-0-0-0)
5 Usrin 7 pts (0-1-0-0-0-1-3-0-0-0-2-0)
6 Duplode 3 pts (0-1-0-1-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0)
My predictions for today's matches:
Italy - Croatia 1-1
Spain - Ireland 4-1 (or 5-1... let it remain 4-1)
Nice 2-3 prediction for DK-Portugal... Did you pre-arrange it?
Quote from: Overdrijf on June 14, 2012, 07:03:13 AM
The Dutch struggle is all part of the plan to sell the movie rights. Germany has been bribed to beat Denmark. Portugal is going to get ahead 1-0, but then in the break van Marwijk is going to give an incredibly motivating speech (well, he's going to do so in the movie version anyway, in the live version we can't hear him) and the Dutch will score 3 times, while the audience starts humming a rock ballad. Then the rest of the games untill either the finale or the next match against Germany are going to be played in montage style, where nothing happens except for a few brilliant moments they'll be able to edit together.
That's the plan, honest, they are absolutely not just really bad.
I really hope your movie version is real, because if you guys don't get your act together and win against Portugal, we are going to have to beat Germany, which is not very likely. You heard that? WIN against Portugal. Yes, WIN. That doesn't mean play good combination or run fast or make hard shots, it means score more goals than the other team, okay? So you have to put the ball into the goal AND make sure the others don't put balls into your goal. And you have to keep doing it the whole match. I really don't like Portugal and I don't want them to reach the quarter finals, so please, win your game. Preferably by a lot of goals. Then we will try to get a result vs Germany, and if we don't, good for you guys!
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on June 14, 2012, 03:29:32 PM
Nice 2-3 prediction for DK-Portugal... Did you pre-arrange it?
Quote from: Akoss Poo on June 09, 2012, 07:53:11 PM
Football mafia exists... the result is known...
8)
Euro 2004 reloaded?
If Ireland loses to everybody, and Spain, Italy, Croatia plays a draw against each other, each team will have 5 points. Results against Ireland won't count, so the higher scoring the draw is, the better it yields, and the two teams playing against each other are favoured. From when does it sound familiar to me?
Let's hope Spain and Croatia are not Denmark and Sweden, and won't play for a 2-2. But first, Spain and Italy have to beat Ireland.
I'm not satisfied as an Italian fan - even if I earned 3 points for the 1-1 draw.
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on June 14, 2012, 03:35:40 PM
I really hope your movie version is real, because if you guys don't get your act together and win against Portugal, we are going to have to beat Germany, which is not very likely. You heard that? WIN against Portugal. Yes, WIN. That doesn't mean play good combination or run fast or make hard shots, it means score more goals than the other team, okay? So you have to put the ball into the goal AND make sure the others don't put balls into your goal. And you have to keep doing it the whole match. I really don't like Portugal and I don't want them to reach the quarter finals, so please, win your game. Preferably by a lot of goals. Then we will try to get a result vs Germany, and if we don't, good for you guys!
Well, the German coach was already thinking about giving some of his base players some rest, so a stunts could be pulled there. The Dutch team beating Portugal? Let's just say you shouldn't count on it. I'll try to convince them to make it a draw.
Today: 3 points scored by all Hungarians for the ITA-CRO game, 1 points earned by everybody for the ESP-IRL match (though I always managed to get 2, but I chose the weaker tip from my two ideas).
Table:
1 Akoss Poo 15 pts (3-0-0-0-0-0-0-2-0-3-3-0-3-1)
2 CTG 14 pts (3-1-0-0-2-0-2-0-0-0-2-0-3-1)
3 Usrin 11 pts (0-1-0-0-0-1-3-0-0-0-2-0-3-1)
4 Bonzai Joe 10 pts (0-0-0-1-0-0-2-0-0-2-2-2-0-1)
5 Chulk 9 pts (0-0-0-2-3-1-2-0-0-0-0-0-0-1)
6 Duplode 4 pts (0-1-0-1-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-1)
Quote from: Akoss Poo on June 14, 2012, 08:05:31 PM
Euro 2004 reloaded?
If Ireland loses to everybody, and Spain, Italy, Croatia plays a draw against each other, each team will have 5 points. Results against Ireland won't count, so the higher scoring the draw is, the better it yields, and the two teams playing against each other are favoured. From when does it sound familiar to me?
Let's hope Spain and Croatia are not Denmark and Sweden, and won't play for a 2-2. But first, Spain and Italy have to beat Ireland.
I'm not satisfied as an Italian fan - even if I earned 3 points for the 1-1 draw.
From YouTube:
si no vieron el partido no hablen!! Yo lo vi, y fue el mejor? partido de toda la eurocopa, solo al final se les vieron cansado y toquaban tranquilamente, pero solo al final, los ultimos dos minutos!
elvis1612 2 weeks ago
Well, I saw that DEN-SWE game (I watched it instead of ITA-BUL)... :-X :-X :-X
Btw even the 1-1 draw is probably good for ESP and CRO, since Italy is not the master of beating teams by a lot of goals (they would need at least a 3-1)...
Tips for the matches, today:
Ukraine - France 1-1
Sweden - England 0-2
For later:
Croatia - Spain 2-2
What about Denmark - Germany - a 3-2 win for Denmark? If Poland wins the A-group ahead of Russia?
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on June 15, 2012, 09:38:55 AM
What about Denmark - Germany - a 3-2 win for Denmark? If Poland wins the A-group ahead of Russia?
Then Denmark would win the group and play against Russia. Between Portugal and Germany, the goal differential would decide (Portugal wins by 2 against the Netherlands -> Germany out).
But a 4-3 win for Denmark against Germany would help both teams advancing.
Then I suppose that's what will happen?
Whatever happens, Portugal and/or Netherlands and Italy must fall. ;D :P
Tips for final round
Greece - Russia 1-3
Czech Rep. - Poland 2-2
Portugal - Netherlands 1-2
Denmark - Germany 1-1
Croatia - Spain 1-3
Italy - Ireland 2-0
Sweden - France 0-2
Ukraine - England 2-2
Third round tips:
Greece - Russia 1-2
Czech Rep. - Poland 1-2
Portugal - Netherlands 1-1
Denmark - Germany 1-3
Croatia - Spain 1-2
Italy - Ireland 2-0
England - Ukraine 1-1
France - Sweden 1-0
Greece - Russia 0-2
Czech Republic - Poland 1-1
Portugal - Netherlands 0-2
Denmark - Germany 0-0
Croatia - Spain 2-2
Italy - Ireland 2-1
England - Ukraine 0-0
France - Sweden 1-1
3rd round:
Greece - Russia 0-2
Czech Republic - Poland 1-1
Portugal - Netherlands 1-1
Denmark - Germany 1-1
Croatia - Spain 0-1
Italy - Ireland 1-0
England - Ukraine 1-1
France - Sweden 1-0
Rather no explanation... Let's see if I could gain more with tips done in 1 minute, without too much thinking. :)
There is forum at last... I'm not at home (I am in Törökszentmiklós and Szolnok now), so just typing my tips:
CZE-POL 1-1, GRE-RUS 0-2.
CTG went home, where there's no net, but sent me his tips in sms to let it be typed here. Here they are:
GRE-RUS 0-2, CZE-POL 1-1, POR-NED 2-1, GER-DEN 2-1, ITA-IRL 3-1, ESP-CRO 2-2, FRA-SWE 2-1, ENG-UKR 1-0.
BÖFF!!!
Quote from: Akoss Poo on June 12, 2012, 10:46:48 PM
Though, Russia and Poland played a better game, a realistic result the draw is, I think I saw the two qualifying teams there.
Quote from: Usrin on June 16, 2012, 12:01:52 PM
Greece - Russia 0-2
Czech Republic - Poland 1-1
Quote from: CTG on June 16, 2012, 06:38:03 PM
GRE-RUS 0-2, CZE-POL 1-1
Rosszul fogadtunk, szoptunk! :o
Spain-Croatia draw is at 2,65 on the Danish betting market. Significantly lower than normal draw odds, but still higher than Spanish victory odds (1,80).
Again I have to agree with Usrin's tips:
Portugal-Netherlands 1-1
Germany-Denmark 1-1
So in groups A and B the eyebrow raising first round wins by Russia and Denmark turned out to be meaningless distractions. Casting Italy's impressive performance against Spain under that light, the omen of ESP 2-2 HRV becomes more and more compelling... ::)
It was in vain to ask for net when I visited a friend of mine at the weekend...
Good job today CTG!
And goodbye Denmark :'(
I hope to see a good match between Spain and Croatia with 4, 6 or 8 goals. Of course as a draw... ;D :P
Italy-Ireland 1-0.
Croatia - Spain 0-1 ;D
Until the 89th minute, my tips seemed quite good... now it seems I have less and less chance to win the tipping game... Evaluation of previous rounds, table, maybe later tonight, or tomorrow in the daytime.
But the most important: Italy has qualified for the last 8. That makes me happy. Though it is sad that there were three teams I like in this group, and one of them got relegated (Croatia). But ITALY reached the quarter finals! And they are a typical playoff team in my opinion - but probably they will face a strong France in next round...
BÖFF!!!
As for me, finally a strong day after my wretched second round tips. Grazie Balotelli!
England-Ukraine 0-0
Sweden-France 1-2
GO UKRAINE, GO!!! ;D (I can't express how I hate the English football)
After 90 mins:
CZE-POR 0-2
GER-GRE 2-1
ESP-FRA 1-1; extra time 1-1, penalties: 3-4
ENG-ITA 1-0
Czech Rep. - Portugal 1-1 (1-2 after extra time)
Germany - Greece 2-0
Spain - France 1-2
England - Italy 1-2
From now I have to be careful...
*Quarter-Finals*
Czech Rep. - Portugal 1-2
Germany - Greece 2-0
Spain- France 1-0
England - Italy 0-0 (extra time 0-0, penalties 3-4)
It shall be like this:
Czech Republic - Portugal 1-3
Germany - Greece 1-0
Spain - France 2-0
England - Italy 0-2
No draws.
BTW: Standings?
Quote from: Chulk on June 20, 2012, 08:54:52 PM
BTW: Standings?
If I had enough free time, I would do it... but anybody can do it, the rules are clear I think.
Maybe, maybe tomorrow I will have enough time to do it...
Quote from: Chulk on June 20, 2012, 08:54:52 PM
BTW: Standings?
Don't expect any updates from Poo, he's not enough motivated to do it: the 3rd round was really bad for him. ;D
Czech Republic - Portugal 1-1 (Portugal wins after penalty shootout)
Germany - Greece 2-0
Czech Rep. - Portugal 1-1 (1-2 after extra time)
Germany - Greece 2-0
Spain - France 1-0
England - Italy 1-1 (1-1 after extra time, Italy wins on penalties)
Today in few hours Boca Jrs. vs Universidad de Chile... I hope argentinian team wins, but many people says that Boca isn't argentinian ::)
25 matches, no 0-0 so far. Surprising (and good for us).
Quote from: Akoss Poo on June 20, 2012, 09:22:21 PM
If I had enough free time, I would do it... but anybody can do it, the rules are clear I think.
Okay, here is an update before the final week. (The attached text file has the matches and the attribution of points, if you want to double-check my counting.)
1 CTG 32 pts
(3-1-0-0-2-0-2-0--0-0-2-0-3-1-1-2--0-0-3-3-2-0-0-3--2-2-?-?--?-?--?)
2 Akoss Poo 21 pts
(3-0-0-0-0-0-0-2--0-3-3-0-3-1-0-1--0-0-0-0-0-1-0-0--1-3-?-?--?-?--?)
3 Chulk 20 pts
(0-0-0-2-3-1-2-0--0-0-0-0-0-1-1-2--0-0-0-0-1-3-0-0--1-3-?-?--?-?--?)
4 Usrin 19 pts
(0-1-0-0-0-1-3-0--0-0-2-0-3-1-0-0--0-0-0-0-3-1-0-0--1-3-?-?--?-?--?)
5 Duplode 18 pts
(0-1-0-1-0-1-0-0--0-0-0-0-0-1-0-2--0-0-0-1-2-3-0-0--3-3-?-?--?-?--?)
6 Bonzai Joe 15 pts
(0-0-0-1-0-0-2-0--0-2-2-2-0-1-0-0--0-0-0-0-0-1-0-0--2-2-?-?--?-?--?)
Note that the third round was disastrous for everyone except CTG and, arguably, myself (though since I was dead last by the end of round 2 pretty much anything would have been an improvement ::)) .
Thanks Duplode, it is very interesting how I can be still second... By the way anybody who tipped Germany for a medal (maybe everyone) can be given a further point.
Tips for the other 2 matches:
Spain - France 2-1
England - Italy 0-0 (England wins on penalties)
I feel a surprise in the air for tonight... but I don't dare to modify my tip.
Duplode's work has not been checked, but I updated it with the result of today:
1 CTG 32 pts
(3-1-0-0-2-0-2-0--0-0-2-0-3-1-1-2--0-0-3-3-2-0-0-3--2-2-0-?--?-?--?)
2 Akoss Poo 23 pts
(3-0-0-0-0-0-0-2--0-3-3-0-3-1-0-1--0-0-0-0-0-1-0-0--1-3-2-?--?-?--?)
3 Usrin 21 pts
(0-1-0-0-0-1-3-0--0-0-2-0-3-1-0-0--0-0-0-0-3-1-0-0--1-3-2-?--?-?--?)
4 Chulk 20 pts
(0-0-0-2-3-1-2-0--0-0-0-0-0-1-1-2--0-0-0-0-1-3-0-0--1-3-0-?--?-?--?)
4 Duplode 20 pts
(0-1-0-1-0-1-0-0--0-0-0-0-0-1-0-2--0-0-0-1-2-3-0-0--3-3-2-?--?-?--?)
6 Bonzai Joe 19 pts
(0-0-0-1-0-0-2-0--0-2-2-2-0-1-0-0--0-0-0-0-0-1-0-0--2-2-4-?--?-?--?)
Those who selected ESP and GER as top4 teams, all 1-1 points plus, though it is not included in the table. I guess there were no POR top4 tips. Tomorrow's game could be decisive. There is a big fight for 2nd place, but even CTG can lose the game if Germany wins the title.
Quote from: Akoss Poo on June 23, 2012, 10:46:31 PM
Duplode's work has not been checked, but I updated it with the result of today:
1 CTG 32 pts
(3-1-0-0-2-0-2-0--0-0-2-0-3-1-1-2--0-0-3-3-2-0-0-3--2-2-0-?--?-?--?)
2 Akoss Poo 23 pts
(3-0-0-0-0-0-0-2--0-3-3-0-3-1-0-1--0-0-0-0-0-1-0-0--1-3-2-?--?-?--?)
3 Usrin 21 pts
(0-1-0-0-0-1-3-0--0-0-2-0-3-1-0-0--0-0-0-0-3-1-0-0--1-3-2-?--?-?--?)
4 Chulk 20 pts
(0-0-0-2-3-1-2-0--0-0-0-0-0-1-1-2--0-0-0-0-1-3-0-0--1-3-0-?--?-?--?)
4 Duplode 20 pts
(0-1-0-1-0-1-0-0--0-0-0-0-0-1-0-2--0-0-0-1-2-3-0-0--3-3-2-?--?-?--?)
6 Bonzai Joe 19 pts
(0-0-0-1-0-0-2-0--0-2-2-2-0-1-0-0--0-0-0-0-0-1-0-0--2-2-4-?--?-?--?)
That's tight! Except for CTG's score because he obviously pre-arranged some of the matches...
LOL!
(http://static8.origos.hu/i/1206/20120624-a-femen-ukran-nojogi-szervezet.jpg)
Italy was better than England, they eliminated them deservedly. England can be happy to save the match to penalty shootout.
With this, Duplode won 4 points today. /me earned 3 of them, just like Usrin. 1 points for Bonzai Joe and Chulk, while 0 for CTG.
Results after 28 matches, only 3 remaining:
1 CTG 32 pts
(3-1-0-0-2-0-2-0--0-0-2-0-3-1-1-2--0-0-3-3-2-0-0-3--2-2-0-0--?-?--?)
2 Akoss Poo 26 pts
(3-0-0-0-0-0-0-2--0-3-3-0-3-1-0-1--0-0-0-0-0-1-0-0--1-3-2-3--?-?--?)
3 Usrin 24 pts
(0-1-0-0-0-1-3-0--0-0-2-0-3-1-0-0--0-0-0-0-3-1-0-0--1-3-2-3--?-?--?)
3 Duplode 24 pts
(0-1-0-1-0-1-0-0--0-0-0-0-0-1-0-2--0-0-0-1-2-3-0-0--3-3-2-4--?-?--?)
5 Chulk 21 pts
(0-0-0-2-3-1-2-0--0-0-0-0-0-1-1-2--0-0-0-0-1-3-0-0--1-3-0-1--?-?--?)
6 Bonzai Joe 20 pts
(0-0-0-1-0-0-2-0--0-2-2-2-0-1-0-0--0-0-0-0-0-1-0-0--2-2-4-1--?-?--?)
For bonus points, I guess nobody tipped for Italy and Portugal in the top4, but everybody tipped for Germand and Spain there, so that would mean a secure 2 bonus points for everyone, that makes no sense at the moment.
It is a pity that Usrin had no tips for top scorer, though I saw him on forum when it was announced and the tournament had not been started.
Quote from: Akoss Poo on June 24, 2012, 11:39:20 PM
It is a pity that Usrin had no tips for top scorer, though I saw him on forum when it was announced and the tournament had not been started.
Oh no! I remember that the idea of top scorer bonus points came up, but somehow I completely missed that it had been officially included in the game. No problem: perhaps I would have tipped Van Persie (definitely not CR)...
Tips for the semi-finals:
Spain - Portugal 1-0
Germany - Italy 1-0
Tips for the semis
Spain - Portugal 2-0
Germany - Italy 2-0
Spain - Portugal 2-1
Germany - Italy 2-1
Quote from: Usrin on June 26, 2012, 07:57:30 PM
Quote from: CTG on June 24, 2012, 07:37:43 PM
LOL!
What the fu(i)ck they want with that? ;D
Feltünési viszketegség. How is it said in English? ;D
Btw mocskos gyúrós kurvák!
Exhibitionism
Quote from: CTG on June 26, 2012, 08:19:11 PM
Exhibitionism
I think they are not exactly the same, but they are somehow in connection. Maybe feltünési viszketegség can result in exhibitionism / is the substrate of exhibitionism.
And what these b!tches are doing, is something between the two. ;D
Spain - Portugal 0-0 (Spain wins after overtime, 1-0)
Germany-Italy 2-0
Portugal - Spain 1-2
Germany - Italy 2-0
Quote from: Akoss Poo on June 27, 2012, 01:38:57 PM
Spain - Portugal 0-0 (Spain wins after overtime, 1-0)
Brave one. First I thought on 1-1 (Iniesta 53' and cr 88'), followed by a damned lucky 120' goal - of course by gaynaldo. I was a coward to bet on that.
Results after 29 matches, only 2 remaining:
1 CTG 33 pts
(3-1-0-0-2-0-2-0--0-0-2-0-3-1-1-2--0-0-3-3-2-0-0-3--2-2-0-0--1-?--?)
2 Akoss Poo 30 pts
(3-0-0-0-0-0-0-2--0-3-3-0-3-1-0-1--0-0-0-0-0-1-0-0--1-3-2-3--4-?--?)
3 Usrin 25 pts
(0-1-0-0-0-1-3-0--0-0-2-0-3-1-0-0--0-0-0-0-3-1-0-0--1-3-2-3--1-?--?)
3 Duplode 25 pts
(0-1-0-1-0-1-0-0--0-0-0-0-0-1-0-2--0-0-0-1-2-3-0-0--3-3-2-4--1-?--?)
5 Chulk 22 pts
(0-0-0-2-3-1-2-0--0-0-0-0-0-1-1-2--0-0-0-0-1-3-0-0--1-3-0-1--1-?--?)
6 Bonzai Joe 20 pts
(0-0-0-1-0-0-2-0--0-2-2-2-0-1-0-0--0-0-0-0-0-1-0-0--2-2-4-1--n/a-?--?)
Bonzai Joe had no tips.
For those who tipped Spain in final, at least 2 points. For a Spanish bronze medal, 1 point. At least 1 point for everybody to tip Germany's medal position. These are not included in the table.
Will we have 4 top scorers?
gaynaldo didn't shoot a penalty :P ;) :D ;D
Spain to the final. ;D
Who will be Germany or Italy?
Will the 2% win the poll? ::)
Spain vs Italy would be more interesting. It was a great match during the group phase. However, Italy has no real chance against Nationalelf.
0 points for everybody, still, I am very happy after today's match.
1 CTG 33 pts
(3-1-0-0-2-0-2-0--0-0-2-0-3-1-1-2--0-0-3-3-2-0-0-3--2-2-0-0--1-0--?)
2 Akoss Poo 30 pts
(3-0-0-0-0-0-0-2--0-3-3-0-3-1-0-1--0-0-0-0-0-1-0-0--1-3-2-3--4-0--?)
3 Usrin 25 pts
(0-1-0-0-0-1-3-0--0-0-2-0-3-1-0-0--0-0-0-0-3-1-0-0--1-3-2-3--1-0--?)
3 Duplode 25 pts
(0-1-0-1-0-1-0-0--0-0-0-0-0-1-0-2--0-0-0-1-2-3-0-0--3-3-2-4--1-0--?)
5 Chulk 22 pts
(0-0-0-2-3-1-2-0--0-0-0-0-0-1-1-2--0-0-0-0-1-3-0-0--1-3-0-1--1-0--?)
6 Bonzai Joe 20 pts
(0-0-0-1-0-0-2-0--0-2-2-2-0-1-0-0--0-0-0-0-0-1-0-0--2-2-4-1--n/a-n/a--?)
Bonzai Joe had no tips again.
Now I'm not checking the bonuses. 5 top goal scorers at the moment, that would mean 0.4 points for me, crazy...
By the way:
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/382436_384432884937638_735243527_n.jpg)
I didn't dare to show this before the match, but now... ;D ;D ;D
I wonder what is Akoss Poo's opinion on Mario Balotelli, the first ever nigger sending Italy to the final of a big football tournament. :)
Well, my opinion is was included in your question. But you wanted it, new forum topic...
Btw tipping game.
Scores before the final, without bonuses: CTG 33, Poo 30, Usrin 25, Duplode 25, Chulk 22, Bonzai Joe 20.
Earned/possible bonuses: everybody 1 point for Germany, except for CTG, who has 3. 1 point for Spain: Bonzai Joe, CTG and Chulk. Duplode and me: 2 or 7 point bonus for Spain. Usrin: 2 or 10 point bonus for Spain.
0.4 point bonus maximum for me for top scorer tipping, if no one scores his fourth goal. Others can not win anything for this kind of bonus.
4 points available at maximum for final match tipping.
Fix earned bonuses: CTG 4, Poo and Duplode and Usrin 3, Bonzai Joe and Chulk 2.
Standings including this: CTG 37, Poo 33, Usrin 28, Duplode 28, Chulk 24, Bonzai Joe 22.
Possible maximum score for everybody:
CTG 41 - if 4 points scored for final match tipping
Poo 42.4 - if Italy wins, +5 points go for Spain, accurate final match tipping +4, Gomez as one of the top goal scorers +0.4
Usrin 40 - if Spain wins, +8 points go for Spain, accurate final match tipping +4
Duplode 37 - if Italy wins, +5 points go for Spain, accurate final match tipping +4
Chulk 28 - if 4 points scored for final match tipping
BJ 26 - if 4 points scored for final match tipping.
CTG, Usrin and me can win the tipping game.
- if Spain wins, Usrin will surely have 36 points; tipping game victory will be decided between Usrin and CTG on match tipping (and I can be winner if 37.4 pts are enough, but I have very little chance for that)
- if Italy wins, I will surely have 38 points (Duplode only 33, can't overtake me as final tipping only valuable for 4 points); tipping game victory will be decided between CTG and me on match tipping
Any need for a secret tipping somehow? ;D I don't want to influence CTG's tipping. ;D
Tip for the final: Italy wins 2-1
Final:
1-1 tie. Penalties: Italy wins.
Final:
Spain - Italy 0-0 (0-1 in extra time)
If you approve this method for secret tipping, my tip is in this file:
http://usrin.web.elte.hu/temp/Usrin_EURO2012_final.zip
I'm going to show the password for it after the final.
Okay, finishing the tactical war:
Spain - Italy 1-0
(I will finish 3rd. Or in the best case: 2nd)
I guess Usrin said 0-0 with ITA victory after penalties, Akoss Poo will say 1-0 for ITA.
I sent my tip to everybody before 20:45. To Chulk, Usrin, Bonzai Joe and Duplode, to private message, because they were not in the forum or/and not in the race for winning the game. To make everything sure, a copy was sent to Zak.
To CTG, I sent an Excel file, where my tip is included. The password to open it is: "balzaretti".
By the way, my tip was 0-0 after 90 minutes, and Italy wins in additional time/penalty shootout.
whitewash
Okay I sucked. But I had no other tip to tip in order to win the whole...
Maybe Usrin said 4-0...
Quote from: CTG on July 01, 2012, 11:03:39 PM
Maybe Usrin said 4-0...
Who the fuuck cares? I'm third.
Quote from: CTG on July 01, 2012, 11:03:39 PM
Maybe Usrin said 4-0...
No. I said 1-1, with Spanish victory in extra time.
Password: chilibean369
Quote from: Akoss Poo on July 01, 2012, 11:24:02 PM
I'm third.
Muhahahahaha!!! ;D :P :P :P
I'm happy to see you suck because of the disgusting circumstances of your last tip. The only candidate for victory showing up a public prediction was CTG. And see who won... :P
Flamewar in the air.
Poo will explain it with a conspiracy about "fixed" match results (ESP-CRO, ESP-ITA). But it doesn't have an effect on our prediction game, even if it was only theatre.
Final result:
1 CTG 39 (35+4)
2 Usrin 36 (25+11)
3 Akoss Poo 33.33 (30+3.33)
4 Duplode 28 (25+3)
5 Chulk 24 (22+2)
6 Bonzai Joe 22 (20+2)
(I also svcked against Pöcs - friend of mine - who had 44 pts (33+11) in the same game.)
Now let's talk a little bit about the football and not this prediction game.
Spain: I'm fond of their (and Barcelona's) fast and effective passes, but I can't believe that after 4 years the rivals still can't find the medicine against tiki-taka. Easy and well-deserved victory anyway (4-2-0, 12-1; really hard opponents).
Italy: positive surprise of the tournament with some luck and well organized gameplay (except in the final). Even if they play boring, the new generation of Italian football seems to be promising - I guess their club football will rise, too. Banana for Balotelli anyway! Not because I'm racist, but because he's such an annoying clown. ;D
Germany: the future dream team, they only missed some experience. They learned (under Klinsmann and Löw) to play not only effective, but attractive. I bet on them for winning World Cup 2014. On the other hand I miss some "typical Deutsch" from Nationalelf (like Kahn or Effenberg was 10 years ago).
Portugal: cr thought it will be a one man show. He was wrong. Without his egoism and selfishness Portugal would be more successful and a lot more likeable.
Czech Republic: ridiculous weak group, luck, the Russian and Portugal games showed the reality. They did not deserve to be in quarter-finals.
England: the same impotent style like in the last few years. Their only luck was getting a weak group.
France: their style improved, but there's still lack of unity in the team.
Greece: like the Czechs, but at least they were able to beat Russia.
Croatia: maybe their players are not that valuable, but CRO is always a strong squad. They would have good chance in group A and D.
Denmark: even if their fall was the reality, they played well. Denmark was stronger than any teams from group A.
Ireland: lightweight contestant in a strong group, their participation was a gift from the UEFA. Even Hungary is stronger - that's a huge insult.
Netherlands: high and migthy squad with arrogant players, luckily without team spirit. It seems they inherited the permanent looser status from Spain.
Poland: just the form on paper. They couldn't really get advantage from being the host.
Russia: I hope that the Czech game was their real face. Arshavin burned out.
Sweden: disappointing performance against Ukraine, bad luck versus England, confident victory against France. Independently from the results I think they were the strongest team in this group.
Ukraine: ambivalent feelings (beating SWE, suffering vs France, bad luck with bad refree in the last match), but they wouldn't really deserve to qualify to the knock-out phase.
It was a strong mediorce tournament in general with several enjoyable matches and only a few 0-0s. I think Euro2000 remains the best international cup forever...
Congratulations on winning the prediction game! I also agree with everything you said about the teams' performance. Actually I agree so completely that I fear we might both have been brainwashed by commentator consensus...
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on July 02, 2012, 10:16:42 AM
I fear we might both have been brainwashed by commentator consensus...
Maybe. Although many commentators said Spain is boring with this neverending passing game. As for me it's not only useful, but it's still good to watch. It's a huge advantage for them to have most of the key players from the two Spanish giants (I missed Puyol very much).
How funny, Barcelona bought another tricky "dwarf", Jordi Alba. He's damned fast and quite dynamic in taking over the ball. With this performance he has a great chance to be a permanent team member.
If those commentator says that just comment Golf :P
Quote from: CTG on July 02, 2012, 08:43:15 AM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on July 01, 2012, 11:24:02 PM
I'm third.
Muhahahahaha!!! ;D :P :P :P
I'm happy to see you suck because of the disgusting circumstances of your last tip. The only candidate for victory showing up a public prediction was CTG. And see who won... :P
No flamewar in the air, just an additional comment. First I just wanted to neglect your sh!t, but I decided to react.
In the past 15 years, you were the man who went crazy when numbers were related to a group of people including you, especially when an opponent was Akoss Poo in reaching a higher score there, no matter if it was just a silly competition or the meaning of life.
The long and epic history of CTG vs. Akoss rivalry teems with scandalous moments triggered by you, including cheatings and cheating attempts, suddenly broken allianes, unfulfilled promises, as I guess everybody knows here.
As a result, I feel victorious when I manage to block all slots from you where I can suffer a possible cheating. Now I feel this way again - with my way of tipping. Even if my tip was wrong.
It is totally unpredictable whether you take a competition seriously or not, but one thing is sure, when you can't hold things in your hand, you pretend that you are not interested in. And what is more disgusting and shameful than my way of tipping is, that after all these, you have a nerve to act like the frank and honest CTG...
In a nutshell: I had my reasons, based on the experienes of the past 15 years, to take this way of tipping.
Quote from: Akoss Poo on July 02, 2012, 10:08:00 PM
In a nutshell: I had my reasons, based on the experienes of the past 15 years, to take this way of tipping.
Answer in a nutshell: ...and you sucked. ;D
You should learn how to lose with dignity.
Quote from: CTG on July 02, 2012, 09:41:48 AM
Germany: the future dream team, they only missed some experience. They learned (under Klinsmann and Löw) to play not only effective, but attractive. I bet on them for winning World Cup 2014.
That would be nice, but I am beginning to fear for this generation, as an stigma of serial chokers starts to hang above them. Maybe the newest crop (Reus, Götze et. al.) can make the difference in 2014? In any case, I might bet on them (yet again) time as well, if only because Spain, I sense, will begin to look jaded after these years of glory - even if at this point
nothing is out of reach for La Roja...
Quote from: CTG on July 02, 2012, 02:11:53 PM
Maybe. Although many commentators said Spain is boring with this neverending passing game. As for me it's not only useful, but it's still good to watch. It's a huge advantage for them to have most of the key players from the two Spanish giants (I missed Puyol very much).
Quote from: alanrotoi on July 02, 2012, 05:48:28 PM
If those commentator says that just comment Golf :P
(1) British media (2) sour grapes (3) short memories [do you remember 2006, when Cannavaro won World Player of the Year and attacking football as a whole was inevitably bound to extinction?] (4) sensationalism (5) ...
UEFA EL qualifiers first round, first leg:
MTK Budapest - Senica/SVK 1-1 (MTK played better and leading 1-0 when the referee sent off a home player undeservedly in 55th minute, finished 1-1)
Flamurtari/ALB- Budapest Honvéd 0-1 (no information).
Videoton will start in second round. Debreceni VSC will start in Champions' League second round, moreover, as a seeded team there.
MTK is out, Budapest Honvéd qualified to the next round and will play against Anzhi Makhachkala (with Samuel Eto'o, LOL).
This thursday: AGF vs FK Dila Gori (Georgia). First international match in 11 years (14 if you don't count Toto Cup).
What is Toto cup??
Quote from: alanrotoi on July 17, 2012, 02:44:44 PM
What is Toto cup??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Intertoto_Cup
Muhahahahaha, our "best" football club showed up great performance against the Albanian champion (CL qualifications, first match):
Skënderbeu - Debreceni VSC 1-0 ;D
Well this is the first year of existance for the "Argentina Cup". It's a kind of "Copa del Rey" from Spain, but without stupid monarchy.
Final match 08/08:
Boca Jrs. VS Racing Club
(http://pasionfutsal.com.ar/imagenes/clubes/BocaJuniors_chico.gif) VS (http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/7969/racingb.gif)
PS: about the coat of arms, you'll never find a Boca shield bigger than any from Racing. They are our sons. :)
Good luck to Racing Club!
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on July 18, 2012, 10:34:01 PM
Good luck to Racing Club!
+1! I really hate Boca Jrs.
AGF - Dila Gori 1-2
:-|
....
Acceptable results from Hungarian football clubs tonight:
Anzhi Makhachkala (sorry, I wanted to copy it in cyrillic letters, failed) / RUS - Budapest Honvéd 1-0
Slovan Pozsony (Bratislava) /*** - Videoton 1-1
It is really a pity for yesterday's result of Debrecen...
Quote from: Akoss Poo on July 19, 2012, 10:41:05 PM
Slovan Pozsony (Bratislava) /*** - Videoton 1-1
I hate Orbán FC soooo much that I'm cheering for Slovan.
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on July 19, 2012, 10:39:30 PM
AGF - Dila Gori 1-2
Maybe next time, in Georgia... :D
I always knew there's something wrong with Barcelona... ;D
(http://lolcalling.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/messi.jpg)
After all we have on our team three former Danish national team players, one of whom was an international star (Martin Jørgensen). And the Danish national team is definitely one of the best 20 in the world. Surely we should be able to beat some unknown Georgian team? Apparently not.
Good news: we have two Georgian players on the team, so the away match isn't completely away...
What about Laudrup?
Neither of the Laudrups have played for AGF. Currently, Michael Laudrup's son, Andreas Laudrup (age 21) is on and off the starting eleven for new Danish champions FC Nordsjælland. Michael Laudrup himself has just been hired as manager for Swansea.
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on July 20, 2012, 10:35:37 PM
Neither of the Laudrups have played for AGF. Currently, Michael Laudrup's son, Andreas Laudrup (age 21) is on and off the starting eleven for new Danish champions FC Nordsjælland. Michael Laudrup himself has just been hired as manager for Swansea.
What about Brian Laudrup?
Well, when he turned 29 or something, he decided he just wanted to chill with his wife for the rest of his life, and he's still busy with that. I spotted him here in Copenhagen about a year ago and he still looked like a very well-behaved schoolboy. I think he's also on TV regularly, analyzing football.
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on July 21, 2012, 01:33:19 PM
Well, when he turned 29 or something, he decided he just wanted to chill with his wife for the rest of his life, and he's still busy with that. I spotted him here in Copenhagen about a year ago and he still looked like a very well-behaved schoolboy. I think he's also on TV regularly, analyzing football.
I guess maybe it was hard for him to live under his brother's shadow while playing, so he just took it easy and retired...
He was pretty good for a while though. For someone like me, who grew up with football just after Michael Laudrup's greatest glory days in the late 80's and very early 90's, those two brothers were quite equal. It's only as an adult that I've found out that Michael was a much greater player.
Are you bored of tiki-taka? Kill the Spanish team with Balotelli:
http://internetjatek.hu/game/9799/Crazy-Balotelli.html
Quote from: CTG on July 18, 2012, 08:25:44 AM
Muhahahahaha, our "best" football club showed up great performance against the Albanian champion (CL qualifications, first match):
Skënderbeu - Debreceni VSC 1-0 ;D
Debreceni VSC - Skënderbeu 3-0 :-\
Quote from: Chulk on July 21, 2012, 03:07:56 AM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on July 20, 2012, 10:35:37 PM
Neither of the Laudrups have played for AGF. Currently, Michael Laudrup's son, Andreas Laudrup (age 21) is on and off the starting eleven for new Danish champions FC Nordsjælland. Michael Laudrup himself has just been hired as manager for Swansea.
What about Brian Laudrup?
Laudrups are the Danish De Boers (or Koemans). :D
Quote from: CTG on July 25, 2012, 02:28:03 PM
Quote from: Chulk on July 21, 2012, 03:07:56 AM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on July 20, 2012, 10:35:37 PM
Neither of the Laudrups have played for AGF. Currently, Michael Laudrup's son, Andreas Laudrup (age 21) is on and off the starting eleven for new Danish champions FC Nordsjælland. Michael Laudrup himself has just been hired as manager for Swansea.
What about Brian Laudrup?
Laudrups are the Danish De Boers (or Koemans). :D
Useless info about them. The best of Laudrups was the older one, the best of the Koemans was the younger one, and the De Boers where twins, so 3 brothers pairs, 3 different situations.
Quote from: Chulk on July 25, 2012, 02:45:51 PM
Quote from: CTG on July 25, 2012, 02:28:03 PM
Quote from: Chulk on July 21, 2012, 03:07:56 AM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on July 20, 2012, 10:35:37 PM
Neither of the Laudrups have played for AGF. Currently, Michael Laudrup's son, Andreas Laudrup (age 21) is on and off the starting eleven for new Danish champions FC Nordsjælland. Michael Laudrup himself has just been hired as manager for Swansea.
What about Brian Laudrup?
Laudrups are the Danish De Boers (or Koemans). :D
Useless info about them. The best of Laudrups was the older one, the best of the Koemans was the younger one, and the De Boers where twins, so 3 brothers pairs, 3 different situations.
Well, I don't really care about them - maybe only the Koemans as Erwin was the coach of the Hungarian national team few years ago.
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on July 19, 2012, 10:39:30 PM
AGF - Dila Gori 1-2
Dila Gori - AGF 3-1, Aarhus is out.
It's incredibly embarrassing. I don't know why this team has to be such a shit team. Snooze mode on rest of season.
No Hungarian goal today, though one team advanced.
Videoton - Slovan 0-0 (outplayed Slovan Pozsony (nation unknown), but couldn't score)
Will face Gent (BEL) in 3rd round).
Budapest Honvéd - Anzhi Makhachkala (RUS) 0-4 (missing all good chances, then down to 10 men, and three more goals in the net)
Honvéd is out.
DVSC will face BATE Borisov (BLR) in 3rd round of Champions' League qualifying.
Champions' League, qualifying, 3rd round, 1st leg:
BATE Borisov - Debrecen 1-1
That's a good result! If we can go through, the Europa League group stage is secure! It's a pity for the 93rd minute lucky equalizer (own goal) from the Belarussians...
Europa League, qualifying, 3rd round, 1st leg:
Videoton - Gent (BEL) 1-0
With a lucky goal. Good result again!
Gent should kick their ass in Belgium. I hate Orbán's team so much that I would support even a Romanian one against them.
That's the spirit!
Davaj BATE!!!
Debrecen - BATE 0-2, weak match from Debrecen, we can participate in the last EL qualification round.
But: Gent - Videoton 0-3 in the 73rd minute, sounds good. Though I don't like Orbán, it's a Hungarian club.
In the Europa League qualifying playoff round:
Debreceni VSC - Trabzonspor (TUR)
Videoton FC - FC Bruges (BEL)
For the Champions' League group stage qualifying matches, easier opponents could have been drawn...
Quote from: Akoss Poo on August 10, 2012, 01:45:53 PM
In the Europa League qualifying playoff round:
Debreceni VSC - Trabzonspor (TUR)
Videoton FC - FC Bruges (BEL)
For the Champions' League group stage qualifying matches, easier opponents could have been drawn...
My wish: both of them will fall
Realistic view: both of them will fall
Hungarorealistic view: Videoton will qualify (keywords: Orbán, money, cheat), Debrecen won't
Poo's dream: both of them will qualify
In real: the third option is the most likely.
Quote from: Akoss Poo on August 10, 2012, 01:45:53 PM
In the Europa League qualifying playoff round:
Debreceni VSC - Trabzonspor (TUR)
Videoton FC - FC Bruges (BEL)
For the Champions' League group stage qualifying matches, easier opponents could have been drawn...
I just discovered that you mixed up the opponents. Yesterday's results:
Debrecen - Bruges 0-3
Trabzonspor - Videoton 0-0
My opinion is still the same, Orbán payed a lot for the group phase...
And now, something about the game I call true football: Barcelona won the Spanish Supercup by beating Miss Injusticia and Co. (3-2). The second goal of RMA was a joke - no more Zamora award to Valdes, please! He's not a world class goalkeeper (too bad, the best goalie on Earth plays at the blancos).
Quote from: CTG on August 24, 2012, 10:57:27 AM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on August 10, 2012, 01:45:53 PM
In the Europa League qualifying playoff round:
Debreceni VSC - Trabzonspor (TUR)
Videoton FC - FC Bruges (BEL)
For the Champions' League group stage qualifying matches, easier opponents could have been drawn...
I just discovered that you mixed up the opponents. Yesterday's results:
Debrecen - Bruges 0-3
Trabzonspor - Videoton 0-0
My opinion is still the same, Orbán payed a lot for the group phase...
Somehow I am prepared to believe you...
Quote from: CTG on August 24, 2012, 11:04:07 AM
And now, something about the game I call true football: Barcelona won the Spanish Supercup by beating Miss Injusticia and Co. (3-2). The second goal of RMA was a joke - no more Zamora award to Valdes, please! He's not a world class goalkeeper (too bad, the best goalie on Earth plays at the blancos).
Barça didn't want the cup yet, it was just the first game. Match at Bernabeu is left.
Quote from: Chulk on August 24, 2012, 05:58:07 PM
Quote from: CTG on August 24, 2012, 11:04:07 AM
And now, something about the game I call true football: Barcelona won the Spanish Supercup by beating Miss Injusticia and Co. (3-2). The second goal of RMA was a joke - no more Zamora award to Valdes, please! He's not a world class goalkeeper (too bad, the best goalie on Earth plays at the blancos).
Barça didn't want the cup yet, it was just the first game. Match at Bernabeu is left.
Damn, you are right. Where was my brain in the morning? :D
Quote from: CTG on August 24, 2012, 07:58:43 PM
Quote from: Chulk on August 24, 2012, 05:58:07 PM
Quote from: CTG on August 24, 2012, 11:04:07 AM
And now, something about the game I call true football: Barcelona won the Spanish Supercup by beating Miss Injusticia and Co. (3-2). The second goal of RMA was a joke - no more Zamora award to Valdes, please! He's not a world class goalkeeper (too bad, the best goalie on Earth plays at the blancos).
Barça didn't want the cup yet, it was just the first game. Match at Bernabeu is left.
Damn, you are right. Where was my brain in the morning? :D
From my experience, probably still in bed
Cristiana can't stand if somebody is a lot better than him. ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Hcp7SFJxLo
I know that we are still at the beginning but Real Madrid got only 1 point from 6... muhahahahhaha!!!! ;D
Congratulations to Aron Jóhannsson (AGF Arhus)! ;D
Well, thanks :-) Where did you read about his "quattrick"?
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on August 28, 2012, 10:14:55 PM
Well, thanks :-) Where did you read about his "quattrick"?
At the biggest national sports site. Not only a simple quattrick, but the fastest one. And the hattrick was also the fastest.
Really, the biggest sports site in Hungary writes about Danish football? I'm kind of honoured.
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on August 28, 2012, 11:24:19 PM
Really, the biggest sports site in Hungary writes about Danish football? I'm kind of honoured.
http://www.nemzetisport.hu/minden_mas_foci/eurofutball-ket-nagy-golcsucs-dolt-meg-16-perc-alatt-2168327
Nice. Less nice that I had to look at an advertisement for 10 seconds before entering the page. I'd boycott any page that did that, no matter what page it was.
UEFA Champions League, group phase:
Group A
FC Porto
Dinamo Kiev
Paris Saint-Germain
Dinamo Zagreb
Sounds like an easy one, but... the first three teams are in the same class, they will have some bloody matches to qualify to the next round. Prediction: 1 Porto, 2 PSG, 3 Dinamo Kiev, 4 Dinamo Zagreb
Group B
Arsenal
Schalke 04
Olympiakos Piraeus
Montpellier
Arsenal is far the biggest aspirant, the other three will fight hard to survive. Not a strong one anyway. Prediction: 1 Arsenal, 2 Olympiakos, 3 Schalke, 4 Montpellier
Group C
AC Milan
Zenit Leningrad Sankt-Petersburg
Anderlecht
Málaga
Mediorce quartet. Milan is a lot weaker than last year, they will suffer a lot with their hungry rivals. What's more, I feel surprise in the air. Prediction: 1 Zenit, 2 Málaga, 3 AC Milan, 4 Anderlecht
Group D
Real Madrid
Manchester City
Ajax Amsterdam
Borussia Dortmund
Well... that's definitely the "death group", but still Cristiana and Co. is the best from them. City is slightly better than Dortmund, while Ajax is able to cause headache to them. Btw I don't really like these four teams. Predictions: 1 Real, 2 Man. City, 3 Dortmund, 4 Ajax
Group E
Chelsea
Shaktar Doneck
Juventus
Nordsjaelland
One bottle of Borsodi for the evident result: 1 Chelsea, 2 Juventus, 3 Doneck, 4 Nordsjaelland.
Group F
Bayern München
Valencia
Lille
BATE Borisov
This one will be the final order, too.
Group G
FC Barcelona
Benfica
Spartak Moscow
Celtic
Messi and his team will rule this group, although they are going to lose 3 points in the Russian winter. The others? Who knows... Prediction: 1 Barcelona, 2 Benfica, 3 Spartak Moscow, 4 Celtic
Group H
Manchester United
FC Braga
Galatasaray
CFR Cluj
This one is the best example for English teams' "lucky" drawing. Even if MU failed in a similarly weak group in the last year. Predictions: 1 MU, 2 Galatasaray, 3 Braga, 4 Cluj
I feel really sorry for Borussia Dortmund. And I'd say Shaktar Donetsk is not without a chance vs Juventus and Chelsea.
Videoton - Trabzonspor 0-0 after 120 mins, penalties are coming. I wonder how many Turkish shots will fly over the bar (by will)...
ORBÁN TAKARODJ!!!
Videoton won by penalties (4-2), what a "surprise". Please cheer against the team of the Hungarian dictator in the group phase. I will.
Very good draw for Videoton - a group without quality teams. It will still be hard for them, but they have a fair chance.
(http://www.blaugranas.com/media/galeria/25/2/9/6/3/n_f_c_barcelona_humor-2593692.jpg)
Now I understand why they hired Mourinho...
Quote from: Chulk on August 31, 2012, 09:28:36 PM
(http://www.blaugranas.com/media/galeria/25/2/9/6/3/n_f_c_barcelona_humor-2593692.jpg)
Now I understand why they hired Mourinho...
;D ;D ;D
UEFA Supercup final, Falcao destroyed "Dinamo London":
Atletico Madrid - Chelsea 4-1
WHITEWASH!
Great. I can't stand Chelsea.
Great player is Falcao, he played in River Plate and did many goals.
Acceptable start from Györi ETO: 13 pts from 6 rounds, 15-9 goal difference, 2nd place at the moment. Although we haven't played with the main rivals yet, except Debrecen (the only lost match).
1 MTK Budapest 14 pts (10-4)
2 Györi ETO 13 pts (15-9)
3 Debreceni VSC 13 pts (10-5)
4 Budapest Honvéd 13 pts (10-6)
5 Videoton 13 pts (9-5)
These five teams are probably the strongest, too. No big surprise in the first 6 rounds.
Go MTK!
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on September 03, 2012, 01:37:24 PM
Go MTK!
Did you know that MTK is traditionally a jewish (supported) team? Or at least it used to be that - 60 years ago... (not racism, just a fact, their stadium is close to the jewish quarter)
It's more important to mention the best player of the club history: BÉLA ILLÉS, THE GREATEST KING! ;D
No, I didn't know that! Thank you for the Budapesti cultural information.
Marca says cr is sad in Madrid. Probably because of being worse than Messi and Iniesta / earning less than Eto'o. I suggest him to leave for PSG or Anzhi... :D
UEFA EL group phase, first round:
Genk - Videoton 3-0 ;D ;D ;D
Finally...
Quote from: CTG on September 03, 2012, 01:42:03 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on September 03, 2012, 01:37:24 PM
Go MTK!
Did you know that MTK is traditionally a jewish (supported) team? Or at least it used to be that - 60 years ago... (not racism, just a fact, their stadium is close to the jewish quarter)
It's more important to mention the best player of the club history: BÉLA ILLÉS, THE GREATEST KING! ;D
By the way, if there is an atheistic football club in Budapest, I'm gonna support that instead. Otherwise, go MTK!
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on September 21, 2012, 12:35:00 PM
By the way, if there is an atheistic football club in Budapest, I'm gonna support that instead. Otherwise, go MTK!
Let's see the first class clubs:
MTK Budapest (blue/white) - as I told earlier, it's considered to be a jewish club; despite of their successful past, the number of supporters is surprisingly low (attendance is usually under 1000); enemy: Ferencváros
Ferencvárosi TC (green/white) - the most popular Hungarian football club with the well-know stereotype: it's the team of the extreme right wing (their ultras are mainly brainless violent skinheads). Even 20 years ago it was an honour to play in "Fradi", nowadays it's just a simple football club with dozens of well-paid, but untalented players without soul. I still remember the Györi ETO - Ferencváros (2-3) match from 1997 - the last time when our stadium was full... Enemies: everybody (except Zalaegerszeg)
Budapest Honvéd (red/black) - Honvéd means soldier, it used to be the team of the military. Their stadium is in the suburbs (Kispest). Honvéd has a great past - even Puskás started there - but later it became a "gipsy" squad (several "brownies" played there, especially in the 90's - later they changed them to blacks). Nowadays it's quite a popular one compared to an average Hungarian team. Enemy: Ferencváros
Újpesti TE (purple/white) - deadly enemy of Ferencváros, with the same quality (but significantly lower number) of fanatics. As far as I remember they used to be the team of the police (or the ministry of domestic affairs?). They were pushed heavily by the Hungarian Football Association (MLSZ) before the Fidesz era , now their lobby is a bit weaker (but still existing). Purple monkeys... ;D Friend: Rákospalotai EAC
Vasas (red/blue) - they are not enough characteristic to talk about them (and luckily they are in the second class now)Btw why don't you support a team from the countryside? For example Györi ETO (green/white): no connection with any religious or political bullshit, having several (as for me: way too many) foreign players and they seem to be quite successful in the last few years. :D Enemies: Videoton, Zalaegerszegi TE
Others:
Debreceni VSC (red/white) - the most successful Hungarian team of the last 10 years, supported by the Hungarian State Railways, but it's also infected by politicans (Lajos Kósa, the major of Debrecen has quite a high position in Fidesz). Don't be surprised: the state will pay their new stadium... Enemies: Nyíregyháza, Diósgyör, Ferencváros
Videoton (red/blue, they tried to make Barca-like shirts in the close past) - see earlier, "Viktoroton" or "Fideoton", supported heavily by Fidesz. Enemy: Györi ETO
Diósgyöri VTK (red/white) - the team of Miskolc ("communist" town + high ratio of gipsies), many spectators, quite aggressive ultras. It's always hard to win as a guest there, especially since their financial situation is getting better. Enemies: Debreceni VSC, Kazincbarcika
Haladás VSE (green/white) - another "trainman" squad in Szombathely, usually they are the jumpers between 1st and 2nd class. There used to be an ETO - Haladás friendship in the past, we both hate Zalaegerszegi TE, but they are in second class now, muhahahaha. Okay, the Haladás - Zalaegerszeg rivalism is a lot deeper (deadly enemies).
Eger (shame on me, I don't know their team colors) - poor and weak newbies (destination at the end of the season is second class again), but the city is nice.
Pécsi MFC (red/black) - another nice city with not so characteristic team, I like them anyway
Paks (green/white), Lombard Pápa (?), Kaposvár (green/white), Siófok (erm... yellow/blue?), Kecskemét (purple/white) - listfillers in my eyes
Well, that was interesting to read about :-) It's just that none of the teams sound very sympathetic. ETO and MTK sound neutral. You know how much I despise Fidesz, so from now on I'm going to hate Debrecen as well as FC Féhervar (who I am also going to annoy by not calling them Videoton).
I'll write about Danish football clubs also, if anyone's interested...
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on September 21, 2012, 04:14:05 PM
I'll write about Danish football clubs also, if anyone's interested...
Do it! (Brondby is my favorite there)
Brøndby... hmmm :-)
Well, so in Denmark, we have
FC København, a.k.a. FCK (white) - the biggest team with the most money, situated in central Copenhagen. I would say the Ferencváros of Denmark, but the club is from 1994, when there was a merger between KB (the first football club in Denmark) and other local club B1903. This team has a reputation of being 'corporate' and arrogant, but they have been the best team in Denmark for many years, even though they missed the championship last year (by 1 point).
Enemies: Brøndby, AGF
Brøndby: (yellow/blue) traditionally big club with some impressive results in the 90's. They have been bleeding since the middle of the 00's and are currently in danger of being relegated to the 2nd division for the first time since 1985. This is the 'working class' club, located in suburban Copenhagen. Matches between Brøndby and FCK are called 'new firm' because for a while in the 00's, Brøndby and FCK were about equally strong and better than the rest. FCK and AGF also have crazy hooligans, but Brøndby's are just a little crazier. They also have the best fans in the league. Breeding ground of the best Danish players: Peter Schmeichel, Michael Laudrup, Brian Laudrup and current star Michael Krohn-Dehli.
Enemies: FCK, AGF
AGF: (white/blue) my team, from Aarhus. The oldest (still existing) team in Denmark, dating from 1880. AGF is a very proud club with history and traditions, but the fact is that we have sucked since 1997. Maybe we are a bit too proud, thinking we don't need to work hard to beat the others. Known for some nazi fans, but really there aren't so many. Second best and most faithful fans in the country, after Brøndby's. Even when we were in the 2nd division, there was a high attendance.
Enemies: Brøndby, FCK, FC Midtjylland, AaB, Randers
AaB (red/white, stripes) from Aalborg in northern Jutland. Consistently strong club with a decent CL performance in 2008. Also a respectable and old club. I can't like them because they're competitors of AGF, but I respect them.
Enemies: AGF, OB
OB (blue/white, stripes) from Odense. The last of the five 'real football clubs' in Denmark. They have delivered consistently strong results, until last year. Eliminated Real Madrid from the Champions' Cup in 1994.
Enemies: FCK, AaB
FC Midtjylland, a.k.a. 'the wolves'. New club, from Herning/Ikast, central Jutland (club name means 'central Jutland') (black/red). Founded in 1999 by a merger of Herning and Ikast. Even though they have only worn their black and red outfits for 13 years (unlike KB and B1903, Herning and Ikast were small clubs with very few fans before the merger), they feel very high and mighty because they nearly always finish near the top of the league. This is the 'peasant' club of Denmark.
Enemies: AGF, Randers
FC Nordsjælland, (deep red) from a small town called Farum, 20 km north of Copenhagen. Finally some politics here. This club was brought out of obscurity around 2000 by a the right-wing mayor of Farum, Peter Brixtofte, who was then jailed for fraud (basically spending ridiculous amounts of taxpayer money on very expensive wine). After being a weak team for almost 10 years, they suddenly got good. They now have a strong squad with many marginal national team players, and last year they managed to win the championship, which means that because of FCK's performances in recent years, they qualified directly to Champions' League.
They suddenly have many fans now, but when I saw them in Aarhus in 2006, there were exactly two FC Nordsjælland fans present.
Enemies: Lyngby
AC Horsens (yellow), traditionally a crap club that nobody's heard of, suddenly they have emerged to the best league, at the same time as Horsens authorities are trying to brand the (small, uninteresting) city by presenting huge music names (U2, Madonna, Depeche Mode and Bob Dylan played there recently).
Enemies: Vejle, AGF
Lyngby (blue): old and once great club from the Copenhagen area, currently an 'elevator team', going up and down between 1st and 2nd league. Enemies: FC Nordsjælland.
Randers (bright blue): the ones I hate the most. From Randers, close to Aarhus, but with no history or tradition. Entered the 1st league (Superliga) some time in the 00's and suddenly got some fans. Terribly cocky, in the same way as FC Midtjylland.
Enemies: AGF, AaB
SønderjyskE (bright blue like Manchester City): small club from southern Jutland with few fans, known for playing very defensive football.
Silkeborg (red/white): reasonably respectably team from central Jutland.
Esbjerg (blue/white, stripes): boring team from western Jutland, but it's okay that they're there because it's the 5th largest city in the country. This is the 'fisherman' football club of Denmark.
Even though I could not care less about football, I like the idea of a fisherman football club :)
I will do one from Argentina's Top league. But it will take some time as I am very busy lately.
Quote from: Chulk on September 22, 2012, 09:34:58 AM
I will do one from Argentina's Top league. But it will take some time as I am very busy lately.
Should be interesting. I have heard something about the rivalries of Argentinian football clubs and just how big football actually is there.
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on September 22, 2012, 12:57:05 PM
Quote from: Chulk on September 22, 2012, 09:34:58 AM
I will do one from Argentina's Top league. But it will take some time as I am very busy lately.
Should be interesting. I have heard something about the rivalries of Argentinian football clubs and just how big football actually is there.
I'll try to get info about members each club has, so we can see it clearly
MTK is not unbeaten anymore: Haladás kicked their ass (3-0).
Today afternoon: Videoton - Györi ETO. Crossing fingers...
Hard victory by Barcelona - they played quite bad vs Granada and their CL match against Spartak Moscow seemed to be also quite difficult. :-\
Quote from: CTG on September 23, 2012, 02:06:35 AM
Today afternoon: Videoton - Györi ETO. Crossing fingers...
Videoton - Györi ETO 0-1. Orbán FC sucked, congratulations to ETO! 8)
Quote from: Usrin on September 23, 2012, 10:39:09 PM
Quote from: CTG on September 23, 2012, 02:06:35 AM
Today afternoon: Videoton - Györi ETO. Crossing fingers...
Videoton - Györi ETO 0-1. Orbán FC sucked, congratulations to ETO! 8)
;D ;D ;D
Yay!
DICKSUCKER ÚJPEST!!!
Hungarian Cup, Round 2 (to reach last 32):
KAZINCBARCIKA (struggling in Second Division East) - DICKSUCKER ÚJPEST (famous first division team, I hate them very much) 2-1!!!
Great result! Btw after the very bad start of our team, the coach resigned. The new coach is József Kiprich, former Hungarian National Team and Feyenoord star player (early 90s). BÖFF!!!
I hope to see an ETO-KBSC duel in the next round - again. With the same result as few years ago... ;D :P
Györi ETO - Lombard Pápa 6-0, we are going to lead the championship after this round. ;D
Helicopter trick by Arsene Wenger:
(http://static2.origos.hu/i/1209/20120929-wenger-a-helikopter.gif)
Poo's favorite football coach:
(http://static3.origos.hu/i/1209/20120930-tihana-nemcic-noi-edzo1.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-f29Q3g-moZs/T1lIKgz3v7I/AAAAAAAACyc/KlIRX7uXsn0/s1600/escudo%2Bde%2Bracing.png) Racing 4 - San Lorenzo 0
(http://www.futsala.com.ar/equipos_fotos/sanlorenzo_escudo.jpg)
:) What a small team is San Lorenzo :)
Orbán FC - Sporting CP 3-0 :o >:(
Corruption is so natural in Portugal? ???
Sporting Lissabon is a team that usually only starts playing when their back is against the wall. Considering that they were in the EL Semi final last year, they should be one of the strongest teams...
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on October 05, 2012, 01:12:14 AM
Considering that they were in the EL Semi final last year, they should be one of the strongest teams...
Many times, teams simply cannot keep their previous year level. Look at Athletic Bilbao today for example.
Beware cristiana! ;D
(http://sportszelep.nso.hu/data/cikk/2/17/98/5/cikk_2179805/720.jpg)
Ronaldinho is still a magician. One of the best goals I've ever seen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_zNBFL0WkU&
Quote from: CTG on October 07, 2012, 12:24:34 AM
Ronaldinho is still a magician. One of the best goals I've ever seen.
Great goal indeed. Though I can't help mentioning the GK has a big responsibility on this goal, he should have saved that shot.
Quote from: Chulk on October 07, 2012, 12:57:14 AM
Quote from: CTG on October 07, 2012, 12:24:34 AM
Ronaldinho is still a magician. One of the best goals I've ever seen.
Great goal indeed. Though I can't help mentioning the GK has a big responsibility on this goal, he should have saved that shot.
It reminds me on this (Seaman "loved" the long distance shots :D):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIdzWBU4PE0
Yes. In my opinion, Seaman was a crappy keeper. I never knew why he was considered so good.
On the other hand, I don't recall England having a great keeper for a long long time... maybe Shilton was the last one.
Racing Club won again :)
Quote from: Chulk on October 07, 2012, 03:48:44 AM
Seaman was a crappy keeper.
Sure. I still remember the HUN-ENG friendly match from 1999. Even if the commentary says: "Seaman jó kapus" = Seaman is a good goalkeeper. ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZiIXeST1i8
FC Barcelona - Real Madrid 1-1 (half time)
Barca showed up a really crappy performance in the first half, 1-1 is a gift for them. Let's see if they can improve.
Quote from: CTG on October 04, 2012, 09:14:58 PM
Orbán FC - Sporting CP 3-0 :o >:(
But they got what they deserved from Ferencváros. This is the first time in my life when I'm pleased by a Ferencváros victory in a domestic match... Videoton - Ferencváros 1-2, Videoton could score only from a 'gift' penalty - while Ferencváros was denied a penalty. Of course these 'mistakes' of the referee are not surprising...
KBSC - Nyíregyháza in the next round of Hungarian Cup. I wonder about Poo's opinion... :D
New poll, vote!
What about Robin van Persie? Well, of course Oranje sucked in the European Championship. If we were only judging by club performances, I would give the award to him. Otherwise, definitely CR.
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on October 08, 2012, 10:39:53 AM
Otherwise, definitely CR.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no!!!
If we compare Messi with cristiana...
Who scored more goal? Messi.
Who gave more assists? Messi.
Who do you think to be more fair on the field? Messi. (the portugal crymachine's favorite position is sitting on the grass with suffering face)
Who is less selfish? Messi.
Who is a team member and not an individual scoring machine? Messi.
Who won any important INTERNATIONAL titles with his team? None of these two.
But Golden Ball mustn't be the contest of forwards. I think a Spanish guy should get it this year: Iniesta or Casillas. Both of them deserve it (of course they won't win).
Iniesta has a tiny chance (even if it is for what he did in the past years too, not only for this year). Sometimes this awards are given to someone that deserved it previously and didn't get it.
Casillas has no chance.
P.O. Boxes won't win :D
Quote from: alanrotoi on October 09, 2012, 05:53:43 AM
P.O. Boxes won't win :D
Maybe Rotoi will get it from my traditional FIFA 2000 / 2009 Stunts team.
World Cup qualification:
Estonia - Hungary 0-1
Ibra vs Balotelli, I wonder about the nagger's answer. ;D
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2217175/Zlatan-Ibrahimovic-Mario-Balotelli-mediocre-belongs-Barcelona.html
Zlatan is one talented SOB. If he spend more time trying to get better everyday instead of talking shit about everybody else, he would really be a top striker today (As Messi, Ronaldo, Agüero and Falcao Garcia are)
Quote from: Chulk on October 13, 2012, 09:43:29 PM
Zlatan is one talented SOB. If he spend more time trying to get better everyday instead of talking shit about everybody else, he would really be a top striker today (As Messi, Ronaldo, Agüero and Falcao Garcia are)
Hungarian football fans usually hate Zlatan.
Because of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTV5wuKj5ak
And this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx6HqX4RnfM
Check the time when he scored both goals...
First goal is great, second one is just lucky after your last defensive player miscalculated the ball trajectory...
Quote from: Chulk on October 13, 2012, 10:33:29 PM
First goal is great
Lothar Mattheus (coach of Hungary in that time) said it was a "FUCKIN' GOAL".
Hungary - Turkey 3-1 :o
The other shocking result: Germany - Sweden 4-4 (4-0 in the 61th minute). Probably Nationalelf has never lost a point from 4 goals advantage...
Quote from: CTG on October 17, 2012, 12:21:44 AM
Hungary - Turkey 3-1 :o
I told you before. You have good chances. (Only The neds are clearly stronger than you are)
On SA qualifiers, Chile played probably their best game of the year against Argentina today. Still they lost 1-2 (so sad, hehehe)
The next game vs Romania will be key. If you can win that game, you are a serious contender for play-offs.
Quote from: Chulk on October 17, 2012, 06:14:32 AM
Quote from: CTG on October 17, 2012, 12:21:44 AM
Hungary - Turkey 3-1 :o
I told you before. You have good chances. (Only The neds are clearly stronger than you are)
On SA qualifiers, Chile played probably their best game of the year against Argentina today. Still they lost 1-2 (so sad, hehehe)
Who's looking strongest in South America this year, aside from Brazil and Argentina?
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on October 17, 2012, 10:57:48 AM
The next game vs Romania will be key. If you can win that game, you are a serious contender for play-offs.
Since these two countries are mortal enemies, Hungary vs Romania is always an important game (independently of the actual rankings).
Quote from: CTG on October 17, 2012, 12:21:44 AM
The other shocking result: Germany - Sweden 4-4 (4-0 in the 61th minute). Probably Nationalelf has never lost a point from 4 goals advantage...
Argammon: as a half German - half Swedish pipsqueak, were you satisfied with the game?
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on October 17, 2012, 10:57:48 AM
The next game vs Romania will be key. If you can win that game, you are a serious contender for play-offs.
Taking 6 points for granted on home matches against Andorra and Estonia, and taking into consideration that Turkey already has 3 defeats, yes, the Romania matches can be decisive. 4 points needed against them, then a 6-1-3 record can be enough to be there in the playoff stage (any points in Turkey and in the Netherlands would be a gift).
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on October 17, 2012, 10:58:42 AM
Who's looking strongest in South America this year, aside from Brazil and Argentina?
It is hard to measure how strong Brazil is, as they are not playing official matches (only minor friendlies). Anyway, Brazil in WC is always a favourite because they rarely play seriously on qualifiers but are usually at their best in WC.
Argentina has some serious defensive issues, but our attacking foursome (Di Maria - Messi - Higuain - Agüero) scores on a high percentage on counter-attacks and that pretty much decides every match. (You can see that on yesterday's match highlights http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXBZSARhaTY). We'll finish 1º easily, even with that crappy defense.
Colombia and Ecuador looks strong too, but they play their matches at home at over 4000m. They will qualify (2º and 3º respectively) but that is a plus they won't have at a WC.
Uruguay, Chile and Venezuela will fight for 4º and 5º place:
Uruguay is struggling but, as usual, we will let them win on last round so they can qualify. (We are nice to our weaker cousins)
Chile has some remains of Bielsa's attacking style but they lack the strong mentality to keep playing when they can't score and get frustrated easily
Venezuela is the former weakest team growing year after year, but I think they will fall barely short and won't qualify for next WC.
Paraguay, Bolivia & Peru have no real chances to qualify unless they take a 180º turn on their performances.
Here are the standings
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-u4lWt3rYauY/UH7B-XjG8RI/AAAAAAAAAJ4/pTCy3BqI7wY/s624/Conmebol%2520Standings.JPG)
Why chileans whistles our hymn? Nice friendship we have huh.
Quote from: alanrotoi on October 17, 2012, 05:16:53 PM
Why chileans whistles our hymn? Nice friendship we have huh.
Friendship? They are very likely the country I hate the most. Not in football though, they are not even good enough to be hated by me. It would be like hating the rest of America in Rugby...
Btw: the word you're looking for is Anthem, not Hymn
That's why they are out of Mercosur and such of things.
Did you realize chilean flag is EQUAL to Texas state from USA? Colony...
Quote from: Chulk on October 17, 2012, 09:42:45 PM
Btw: the word you're looking for is Anthem, not Hymn
Actually, anthem is "himnusz" in Hungarian.
Quote from: CTG on October 17, 2012, 11:44:35 PM
Actually, anthem is "himnusz" in Hungarian.
It's "Himno" in Spanish, I guess that's what caused Alan's confusion
A hymn is a song of celebration, opposed to an elegy, which is a song of mourning.
Shame about Paraguay - I thought they would do better, after being in the QF last World Cup. I like them because of their funny country name and kitsch outfits. Many countries in SA have annoying governments (Chile, Argentina, Venezuela...), so I can't decide who I like politically. If I did, I would cheer for Brazil.
About playing conditions: who will have an advantage of playing in the middle of the rain forest (Manaus)?
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on October 18, 2012, 12:57:45 PM
About playing conditions: who will have an advantage of playing in the middle of the rain forest (Manaus)?
Naggers. ;D
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on October 18, 2012, 12:57:45 PM
About playing conditions: who will have an advantage of playing in the middle of the rain forest (Manaus)?
Probably harsh-defensive-not so technically gifted teams (Switzerland, Ukraine, Greece and such) and of course African teams would have an edge because they are usually physically stronger than the rest.
Oh my God, what happened in Riazor... Incredible game!
Quote from: CTG on October 21, 2012, 01:53:30 AM
Oh my God, what happened in Riazor... Incredible game!
Something amazing happened to me while watching that game today (I hope it doesn't become a common thing): I was not amazed by Messi's performance. Maybe he's getting us used to seeing him scoring 3 goals and playing great...
Btw Jordi Alba scored one of the best own goals I have ever seen. :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U3yk9OvJAk
Quote from: Chulk on October 21, 2012, 02:03:51 AM
I was not amazed by Messi's performance. Maybe he's getting us used to seeing him scoring 3 goals and playing great...
Well... compare the performance of Messi and cr in this round. Three marvellous goals (especially the third one, making the defenders completely fool) versus a poor goal from penalty.
Real, Chelsea, Arsenal, Manchester City - black round for most of the hateful top teams (MU had luck again, Braga would deserve at least one point).
Hungarian Second Division, East
1st placed team will be promoted to top division, 2nd-5th placed teams will play next year in the one-group second division, 6th-8th placed teams will play for it against third division champions (there are six groups there).
The farm teams of top division teams do not count in this aspect, they can't play in the united second division group next year.
So Kazincbarcika have to finish over four non-farm teams to let a chance to play in a higher level next year, but I don't think we even want (we can even afford - yes, financially) it, let alone the team is weak as well.
1. Mezökövesd 10 6 1 3 17:12 19
2. Orosháza 10 6 0 4 21:18 18
3. Nyíregyháza 10 5 3 2 12:10 18
4. Honvéd II 10 5 2 3 17:16 17
5. Békéscsaba 10 4 5 1 19:12 17
6. Vasas 10 4 3 3 9:8 15
7. Vác 10 4 2 4 17:16 14
8. Putnok VSE 10 4 2 4 19:19 14
9. Balmazújváros 10 4 1 5 14:15 13
10. Cegléd 10 3 4 3 19:17 13
11. Ujpest II 10 4 0 6 12:18 12
12. Szolnok 10 3 3 4 11:12 12
13. Kazincbarcika 10 3 2 5 13:18 11
14. Szeged 10 2 4 4 15:18 10
15. Debrecen II 10 2 3 5 14:17 9
16. Ferencvárosi TC II 10 2 3 5 12:15 9
Quote from: Akoss Poo on October 25, 2012, 09:32:37 AM
1. Mezökövesd 10 6 1 3 17:12 19
2. Orosháza 10 6 0 4 21:18 18
3. Nyíregyháza 10 5 3 2 12:10 18
4. Honvéd II 10 5 2 3 17:16 17
5. Békéscsaba 10 4 5 1 19:12 17
6. Vasas 10 4 3 3 9:8 15
7. Vác 10 4 2 4 17:16 14
8. Putnok VSE 10 4 2 4 19:19 14
9. Balmazújváros 10 4 1 5 14:15 13
10. Cegléd 10 3 4 3 19:17 13
11. Ujpest II 10 4 0 6 12:18 12
12. Szolnok 10 3 3 4 11:12 12
13. Kazincbarcika 10 3 2 5 13:18 11
14. Szeged 10 2 4 4 15:18 10
15. Debrecen II 10 2 3 5 14:17 9
16. Ferencvárosi TC II 10 2 3 5 12:15 9
Quite a tight table anyway.
Quote from: CTG on October 25, 2012, 09:07:14 AM
Real, Chelsea, Arsenal, Manchester City - black round for most of the hateful top teams (MU had luck again, Braga would deserve at least one point).
Great evening! I watched the Dortmund - Real Madrid game and it was awesome. I hope Dortmund wins the CL (if somehow FC Nordsjælland will be eliminated :D)
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on October 25, 2012, 03:46:46 PM
if somehow FC Nordsjælland will be eliminated :D
Yes, somehow. ;D
Videoton - FC Basel 2-1
Now really: FVCK YOU, ORBÁN! >:(
Quote from: CTG on October 25, 2012, 10:23:19 PM
Videoton - FC Basel 2-1
:o :o :o
The higher they climb, the harder they will fall.
Quote from: Usrin on October 26, 2012, 12:06:57 AM
Quote from: CTG on October 25, 2012, 10:23:19 PM
Videoton - FC Basel 2-1
:o :o :o
The higher they climb, the harder they will fall.
At least they suck in the championship. :D
Videoton - Debrecen 3-1, hmmm... :-\ (I was cheering for 0-0)
Premier League: Chelsea-MU, two red cards in the home team... and now 2-3... damn it!
This year MU is far the worst I have ever seen. Or at least quite an uncharacteristic one.
Green-white derby in the air: Ferencvárosi TC-Györi ETO 0-0 in the 5th minute. We must win to get 4 points advantage against Debrecen. Too bad we are usually crappy against FTC...
Quote from: CTG on October 28, 2012, 06:38:30 PM
Green-white derby in the air: Ferencvárosi TC-Györi ETO 0-0 in the 5th minute. We must win to get 4 points advantage against Debrecen. Too bad we are usually crappy against FTC...
Ferencváros - Györi ETO 1-1, FTC played a lot better in the second half... :-\
River Plate 2 - Boca Jrs. 2
Perfect weekend of football for me!!
OB - AGF 2-4 (we're at 4th place, close to the top)
Vejle BK - Brønshøj 0-2 (Brønshøj is my cool, small local team from the harsher suburbs of Copenhagen. They are known as "the wasps", playing in black and yellow. It's an amateur team and their players are out helping troubled youths from the area when they're not training. They are now 2nd in the 2nd league, which means they could be promoted to the Superliga, which would be surreal and amazing.)
Southampton - Tottenham 1-2 (mandatory away-victory, but still important)
Rayo Vallecano - Barcelona 0-5 (too bad Real also won with the same result)
Chelsea - Manchester United 2-3 (there is no doubt the Chelsea is a much more annoying team than Manchester United. skid off Chelsea.)
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on October 29, 2012, 09:28:55 AM
Chelsea - Manchester United 2-3 (there is no doubt the Chelsea is a much more annoying team than Manchester United. skid off Chelsea.)
Since Abramovic is there, I simply call them Dinamo London.
I think Manure is the most annoying team nowadays (though Real Madrid can rival with them).
Quote from: Akoss Poo on October 29, 2012, 12:36:01 PM
I think Manure is the most annoying team nowadays (though Real Madrid can rival with them).
Total agreement. Nevertheless Chelsea is really close to them from this aspect.
Reading - Arsenal 5-7 (after extra time) :o
amateurs...
Hey Alan Rotoi
This column in a Danish newspaper, written by a Danish fan of Racing Club, says that Racing is 'the AGF of Argentina', because both clubs are highly traditional, value hard work and value the collective higher than individuals. And that there are always great expectations, but often unfulfilled.
Maybe I should start supporting Racing Club also :)
http://politiken.dk/sport/fodbold/ECE1557274/min-klub-racing-club-de-avellaneda-er-argentinas-agf/
Yeah, Racing vs Independiente has a "mystic" only superated by River Plate vs Boca Jrs. It is right, the last title we had is in 2001 so we must win this year :D with such players like Camoranesi in the team.
I would like you support Racing, but you must know first we don't say "racing" in the english way. We say this way (more or less): http://translate.google.com.ar/?hl=es-419&tab=wT#es/en/rasin :)
The "hooligans" of the team are called the "Imperial Guard" (Guardia Imperial) and this is the logo:
(http://sp5.fotolog.com/photo/53/61/45/laguard1aimprial/1271206334702_f.jpg)
Maybe Chulk with his wider knowledge of english can explain better what's the feeling and the mystic of the people in Racing Club.
And for last here is the anthem sung by the incomparable Carlos Gardel! It's and old record before 1930.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_it8sNjGTU
Neither Messi, nor c.r. scored a goal in this round. How often does it happen?
Messi's son is exactly 869 days younger than Cristiano's son. The exact same difference between Messi and CR7. I hope Cristiano Ronaldo Jr. will get his ass kicked by Thiago Messi in 20 years...
The "Messiah's" son :)
Quote from: alanrotoi on November 04, 2012, 02:12:27 AM
The "Messiah's" son :)
Messi is not that great star in Argentina, is he?
Shut up! He is the second best player in the football history!
Quote from: alanrotoi on November 04, 2012, 02:25:11 AM
Shut up! He is the second best player in the football history!
Why do I have a feeling I know who #1 is, and that it's not Pelé? :)
Yeah! But I guess Messi will be better, he has a lot of years of career yet.
BTW I'm watching right now a program about Maradona's playing. I don't know what to say... (¿cómo se dice "centro de rabona a la cabeza"?)... I didn't say Messi do some of those things... Zidane talking about he can't do some tricks that saw from Maradona.
October 30, was Maradó's birthday :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4I008-_CQQ
Quote from: alanrotoi on November 04, 2012, 02:25:11 AM
Shut up! He is the second best player in the football history!
Hey! I said he's not that great star in your country because of his mediorce/weak performance in the national team (before 2012). Of course he's the best player on Earth at the moment.
I understood. Here are some idiots that don't like him because he doesn't 55 goals in every match. But who admire him are more :)
I think Messi is the best in history. He's way more effective than any other forward and he assists better than most midfielders. He has an amazing speed and control over the ball, and he never gives the ball up, not even after fouls (you can see that there http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwF3oxvh3DI) I think Maradona had this skill to stay up after being fouled too, just not so obvious because he dived every now and then)
On the other side, Maradona had magic. Same as Ronaldinho (my favourite player after Messi and Rivaldo), he pulled tricks that were impossible for others: overhead kicks (either into goal or passing to a teammate); self-passing over the defender with his heel, his chest, his head, his knee; marseillaise roulete; rabonas (that moved Alan was taking about) and all kinds of dribbling. You can see from 2:30 to 2:40 one of the biggest examples of his magic here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6syIrP0qmY
And that
Quote from: alanrotoi on November 04, 2012, 05:55:32 PM
"centro de rabona a la cabeza"
Alan talks about is probably that crossing "de rabona" perfectly aimed at the FW head at 7:30.
If you ask me, Messi is better but Maradona has that thing we called "Mistica" here, something related to his ability to win even when playing badly and that feeling his rivals had before the match that no matter what they did, they wouldn't be able to stop him or his team.
When Messi is on the field, you feel that there is a chance he'll do something amazing and win, but when Maradona was on the field you KNEW that. You KNEW he would do everything for his team and you KNEW you could beat even the strongest rival while playing awful football, because he would do it, he would win that game (Italy 90's quarterfinals against Brazil is the best example I can think of right now).
Sorry about the long post, it's just that I love Messi, I love Maradona even more, and above all I love football, greatest sport ever!
Yeah, I was talking about that center de rabona to Ramon Diaz :)
You can't compare the players from different era, because several circumstances changed a lot. The game is faster, players need more stamina, higher speed, they pay a lot more attention on physical training, etc. As for me, the best players ever are Maradona, Messi, Pelé, Puskás and Zidane. cr won't ever enter this club. He's not even close to that.
Quote from: CTG on November 04, 2012, 10:01:11 PM
...players need more stamina, higher speed, they pay a lot more attention on physical training...
Exactly why I think Messi is the best. In an era of physical, less technique-demanding football, with defense being much more important than ever, being a player that no defense can stop is much harder. Of course it was easier to score when teams played 2-3-5 many decades ago than now where most team play 4-4-2 or even 4-5-1 so beating every scoring record there is, definitely makes you the best.
Still I think Maradona was not better than Messi, but he definitely is greater. Maradona is the most "Tsubasa like" player there ever existed. He faced stronger teams and really great players, but somehow he always managed to win despite being injured, having the refs clearly against his team and being on a weaker team...
Two Scudettos with Napoli...
Quote from: alanrotoi on November 05, 2012, 02:17:12 AM
Two Scudettos with Napoli...
That, a national title with Argentinos Jrs, Argentina's first U-20 World Cup in Japan '79 and Argentina's second World Cup in Mexico '86, Runner-up in Italy '90...
Quote from: Chulk on November 05, 2012, 05:40:16 AM
Quote from: alanrotoi on November 05, 2012, 02:17:12 AM
Two Scudettos with Napoli...
That, a national title with Argentinos Jrs, Argentina's first U-20 World Cup in Japan '79 and Argentina's second World Cup in Mexico '86, Runner-up in Italy '90...
Later: coca shrubs, +80 kg, friendship with Fidel... ;D (sorry, couldn't leave it out)
He met Benedictus XVI too. When he came back he said something like: "Why young boys are starving while he lives under a golden roof?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3slGgodcXBY
Religion is another thing. I don't really like the catholic hypocrisy.
But...
Back to football: I wonder why the Brasilian stars burn out so fast (Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Kaká, Adriano - and I guess Neymar will show the same).
Quote from: CTG on November 06, 2012, 01:15:16 PM
Quote from: Chulk on November 05, 2012, 05:40:16 AM
Quote from: alanrotoi on November 05, 2012, 02:17:12 AM
Two Scudettos with Napoli...
That, a national title with Argentinos Jrs, Argentina's first U-20 World Cup in Japan '79 and Argentina's second World Cup in Mexico '86, Runner-up in Italy '90...
Later: coca shrubs, +80 kg, friendship with Fidel... ;D (sorry, couldn't leave it out)
I really don't care what he did or does in his private life. I just think he's the greatest football player ever.
Have I ever noticed that both Maradona and Messi debuted in your national team versus Hungary? (Messi got a red card quite fast... ;D)
Quote from: CTG on November 06, 2012, 06:57:05 PM
Have I ever noticed that both Maradona and Messi debuted in your national team versus Hungary? (Messi got a red card quite fast... ;D)
Y Pele debuto con un pibe (sorry guys, that has to be said in spanish)
and finished with "y le pegó a la jermu" jajaja
Quote from: CTG on November 06, 2012, 04:32:23 PM
Back to football: I wonder why the Brasilian stars burn out so fast (Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Kaká, Adriano - and I guess Neymar will show the same).
What I find striking in your examples is the contrast between Kaká and Adriano: the former is a model professional and adeeply religious man; the other, an undisciplined, psychologically troubled player. Water and wine, and yet both were spent before turning 30. I don't think Neymar will suffer from the same fate (barring misfortune with injuries); the real question is whether he will rise to the levels everyone seems to expect him to, or else follow the footsteps of that previous Santos superstar, Robinho.
Quote from: CTG on November 06, 2012, 04:32:23 PM
Back to football: I wonder why the Brasilian stars burn out so fast (Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Kaká, Adriano - and I guess Neymar will show the same).
I wouldn't put Kaka in this group... We know the others burnt out because they loved party, alcohol and sex more than anything else.
IMO Kaká did not burn out, he simply faded because he chose to go to RM even if it meant not playing often or RM style not suiting him as well as Milan FC did. He couldn't keep his rhythm and his skills at his best in RM. I guess it happens when a player that good does not play regularly enough.
I remember something like that happened with Saviola when he went to RM. He was always over .4 goals per game before he went to RM. There he only scored 5 goals in 26 matches during 2 seasons (most of them coming as a sub).
Sometimes players don't take a team's style or how much will they play there into account when they get transferred to other clubs, and that ends up harming their careers many times.
Kaka is the brazilian player I like more. He is different, he's cerebral.
MTK - Györi ETO 1-3
Even if I know that Orbán won't let us to win the title (but at least Videoton sucked versus Basel in EL, muhahahaha), the current leading position is really incredible.
Well, as being Hungarian, I'd never thought that I could ever say the following sentence:
FOREVER ZLATAN IBRAHIMOVIC!!! ;D
But knowing how much I hate British football, and seeing his performance today, I really must praise this genius player.
BÖFF!!!
OMG we suck! Argentina 0 - 0 Saudi Arabia :(
Quote from: alanrotoi on November 15, 2012, 01:37:09 AM
OMG we suck! Argentina 0 - 0 Saudi Arabia :(
We don't suck, it was just a crappy not-motivating match to play. Those friendlies we only play because money is good. Think about it, if you were any of the guys that are usually in the starting eleven of Argentina's NT (Romero; Zabaleta, Fernandez, Rojo; Mascherano, Di Maria; Messi, Agüero), would you really play seriously against such a weak team?
Racing 4 - Quilmes 0
The goals here :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFD9RMfOs1A
There are only 3 matchs left, we can do it! BTW there are 7 Intercontinental cups in this top 8 :D
(http://image.gxzone.com/images/4/4/44d4481d9d5.jpg)
JUVENTUS - CHELSEA 3-0
GALATASARAY - MANURE 1-0!!!
WHAT A NIGHT IN THE CL!!! BÖFF!!!
;D ;D ;D
11? 11? 11?
(Levante shouldn't be that hard exercise)
Quote from: CTG on November 25, 2012, 09:52:38 PM
11? 11? 11?
(Levante shouldn't be that hard exercise)
11! ;D
Real vs Atletico, quite strange roles before the match. Go Falcao!
Fulham - Tottenham 0-3
West Ham - Chelsea 3-1
Man. City - Everton 1-1
Arsenal - Swansea 0-2
A good day in the Premier League.
I hope to see a huge Sporting victory this evening. ;D
Aaaaaaaaargh, City is going to lose against United.
Quote from: CTG on December 09, 2012, 03:51:37 PM
Aaaaaaaaargh, City is going to lose against United.
Now really... FVCK OFF DIRTY LUCKY MANCHESTER UNITED WITH ALL THEIR 90+X' GOALS! >:(
Next weekend seems to be quite hard for Barcelona (vs Atletico Madrid). And for me too: these two teams are my favorites from Spain for ages and now also Atletico is really close to the fire.
El campeón volvió! ;D Forever Tricolor Paulista! (And skid off them Tigre bozos! :P)
What a shame! If they show guns to the players, ok keep the stallin cup, let me live! I have a BAD feeling for next world cup in Brazil if this matter keeps this way.
http://www.goal.com/en-ca/news/82/south-america/2012/12/13/3599838/sao-paulo-crowned-copa-sudamericana-champions-after-tigre
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Uj_85KW2Xc
Tigre is a small team and they were in the final of a continental cup and they run away for a 2-0? Nobody does! You are in the finals you want to win or lose there but never quit, at least if you have the risk of losing your life! This is incredible.
Pepe is always an asshole - even when he doesn't want to be. ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXhlqLpqEwY
Are the people screaming "Argentino"? or "Asesino"? (assasin)
Quote from: alanrotoi on December 13, 2012, 04:15:57 PM
I have a BAD feeling for next world cup in Brazil if this matter keeps this way.
Worried about 2014? Sorry Alan, but... ::) While I do not condone any sort of bullying by police and security staff, the fact is that looking for trouble is a great way to find it. Escalating a fight on the way down to the dressing room when you are the visiting team is just dumb; not to mention that Tigre behaved like assholes for the whole 135 minutes. As for the claims about guns, they are just as believable as the claims by São Paulo that Tigre players and staff tried to bring the brawl to São Paulo's dressing room, or that they trashed their dressing room.
Countering biased links with biased links:
http://jovempan.uol.com.br/videos/veja-imagens-de-vestiario-usado-pelo-tigre-com-sangue-e-depredacao-69305,1,0 (shows supposed damage to the visitors' dressing room and the corridor through which the Tigre people would have gone after São Paulo team).
http://esporte.uol.com.br/futebol/campeonatos/copa-sul-americana/ultimas-noticias/2012/12/13/argentinos-doo-tigre-recuam-em-depoimento-a-policia-e-nao-citam-suposta-ameaca-com-arma.htm ("Tigre backs off and makes no mention of gun threats when deposing to the police.")
"allright"
Although the first half was a nightmare for Barcelona, it became a whitewash. Even if Atletico is still second, they couldn't really grow up to the two giants (0 pt, 1-6).
I wonder which Arabian/Russian billionaire will steal Falcao... (PSG? Manchester City? Chelsea?)
Deep crisis at Real Madrid - to win back the team unity, two portugals should leave (Special Five, cristiana). However, it's fun to see them suffering... ;D
Premier League, lesson 1
(http://www.nemzetisport.hu/data/cikk/2/20/28/51/cikk_2202851/angolpoen.jpg)
Quote from: CTG on October 31, 2012, 01:24:44 AM
Reading - Arsenal 5-7 (after extra time) :o
Quote from: CTG on November 01, 2012, 01:15:05 AM
Chelsea - Manchester United 5-4 :D
Arsenal - Newcastle United 7-3
What the hell happened in England?
Quote from: CTG on December 29, 2012, 09:23:48 PM
Quote from: CTG on October 31, 2012, 01:24:44 AM
Reading - Arsenal 5-7 (after extra time) :o
Quote from: CTG on November 01, 2012, 01:15:05 AM
Chelsea - Manchester United 5-4 :D
Arsenal - Newcastle United 7-3
What the hell happened in England?
35 goals in 8 matches yesterday. Should be interesting for the estimation game if that trend continues on Jan 1.
I'm so thankful that the Premier League continues through christmas. Otherwise there would be no football to watch at all.
Quote from: CTG on December 29, 2012, 09:23:48 PM
Quote from: CTG on October 31, 2012, 01:24:44 AM
Reading - Arsenal 5-7 (after extra time) :o
Quote from: CTG on November 01, 2012, 01:15:05 AM
Chelsea - Manchester United 5-4 :D
Arsenal - Newcastle United 7-3
What the hell happened in England?
Nothing new really. Premier league teams' defensive skills just suck. That's why its matches are so entertaining to watch, lots of goals guaranteed!
Quote from: alanrotoi on October 01, 2012, 12:48:14 AM
:) What a small team is San Lorenzo :)
However, they are supported by the new pope: http://www.origo.hu/sport/focivilag/20130314-kiderult-kinek-drukkol-ferenc-papa.html
If they improve from now, I would have to reconsider my views on the existence of God. ;)
We have Messi and the Pope, if we don't win the next WC it will be the proof about the non-existence of God.
Quote from: Chulk on March 14, 2013, 02:12:56 PM
We have Messi and the Pope, if we don't win the next WC it will be the proof about the non-existence of God.
The hand of God wasn't enough, huh? :P
(http://cdn.worldcupblog.org/www.worldcupblog.org/files/2010/07/diego.jpg)
Yep, we have Franciscus hand now :D