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#21

Competition 2025 / Re: ZCT001 25 years later

Last post by alanrotoi - November 09, 2025, 12:22:51 AM

It would be a nice option for zct300 too. We have to think what to do next year!

#22

Competition 2025 / ZCT001 25 years later

Last post by Mortimer Macmire - November 08, 2025, 08:26:42 PM

Hi Guys,

Lately I've been (casually) re-driving some of the older tracks. Doing this I got an idea that might be cool to implement in te last race of this season.

What if we, in celebration of ending the anniversary 25th season, reopen zct001 as a one-time side scoreboard? Many of us were not around at that time and this way we can honor the pipsqueaks of that era.

Let me know what you think of this idea!

#23

Stunts Chat / Re: Stunts videos

Last post by alanrotoi - November 08, 2025, 08:03:08 AM

A helicopter trick in zct165 with a Corvette!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wegY2fXt56Q


 The funny thing is that "helicopter trick" is one of the hardest tricks in the game. It was made just for fun in this case because the best car for this track, according to the car bonuses was Speedgate XSD. Even my own teammates used the proper car. Check the scoreboard: https://zak.stunts.hu/tracks/ZCT165

So, racing this track without the proper car (I used the Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1) and performing a very complex trick it's an example of how we have fun playing this game besides the competition result.

I was pretty satisfied with this replay knowing it wouldn't be a competitive lap. It got 10th place Please enjoy the replay and the trick!

#24

General Chat - ZSC / Re: ZakStunts pipsqueaks Tier ...

Last post by dreadnaut - November 07, 2025, 11:15:58 PM

I'll have @alanrotoi and @Argammon in my S tier of folks who create interesting threads.

I don't know enough to attempt a tier, but I'll put @CTG and @Renato Biker at the top tier for "pipsqueaks who are good at hinting and explaining how to drive well". Marco, Seeker1982, Duplode and FinRok are brilliant at the driving bit, so deadly in live races. Tricks are an interesting mix of patience, attention to detail, imagination, and dedication/time. I have trouble differentiating, but I know I can get the first two with a powergear car. I have only admiration for those who can put consistent skill and effort on all those fronts.

#25

General Chat - ZSC / Re: ZakStunts pipsqueaks Tier ...

Last post by CTG - November 07, 2025, 05:22:24 PM

Bonus:

Tier B: Dottore
Tier C: Bolo Yeung, Navras, Böllér Jani, Rokker Zsolti
Tier D: CrazyDriver, Ukyo Katayama, Zweigelt



(Yes, there were many other, less important ghosts - I don't remember them.)

#26

General Chat - ZSC / Re: ZakStunts pipsqueaks Tier ...

Last post by Argammon - November 07, 2025, 10:12:40 AM

He is faster than you "on the road" and you are doing more tricks. Since there are not many tricks on this track he wins. It's actually pretty simple.

Yes, this was the zct243 but not always was like this. The point of the video is to show no matter the effort I did or the crazy tricks I tryied, he beated me with a simplier but perfect drive that was the best choice.

Can we stop this silly discussion?

It was never a discussion from me. So no hard feelings from my part. This is an exchange of point of view and opinions. There is no tier list of opinions . CTG said a valid point in my list about akoss' performance. I see good will in the comments of this thread so we can keep doing and sharing lists!

Sorry for not being clear. What I tried suggesting was that we stop our discussion about whether I belong in tier A or S. Whereas I put more weight on (somewhat) object measures such as the Folyami rating (Me->Tier S), direct clashes (Ayrton, Gutix -> tier S), the medal table (Duplode ->Tier S, MidiAN ->one tier down), or a combination of those (Renato->Tier S), you look at replays and subjectively decide which ones you like best. We are not going to reach an agreement here, but -as mentioned- it is fine to agree to disagree. You are of course free to continue discussing the tiers with other pipsqueaks as long as you please. 

Regarding the replay you posted, there is little doubt that Duplode is one of the best OWOOT pipsqueaks in history. But even the top pipsqueaks have different strengths and weaknesses. It is not like Duplode is better than you on every possible type of track.
 
Finally, I would like to point out that even the "track" issue is subtle. As an example, consider someone saying "pipsqueak X is best at power-gear". What does this really mean? Even here, we have to distinguish between

• Tracks where doing a power-gear lap is easy and the race is about finding the last milliseconds. https://zak.stunts.hu/tracks/ZCT287 is a good example for this.
• Tracks where doing a power-gear lap is extremely difficult. Here the most important issue is to complete a power-gear lap where others fail, see https://zak.stunts.hu/tracks/ZCT284 for example
• Tracks where doing a power-gear lap is easy but that hide incredible but difficult shortcuts that upon completion give a pipsqueak the upper edge, https://zak.stunts.hu/tracks/ZCT260 is a prime example for this. (How you cannot admire this trick is beyond me. If Ayrton did it, it would be the most magical trick in stunts history.)

Of course, you could add more categories and thereby make the list even more fine grained. My point is that it is not the same pipsqueak who is the best in all possible categories. The same is true for the many different types of NON-PG tracks.

This will be my last post on this topic for a while as I will be away travelling. So see you at the end of ZCT292.

What I can promise is that I am not going to submit a maxed out replay, meaning that I will only be able to win if I find tricks or shortcuts that the competitors do not. But tricks and shortcuts are what I love about Zakstunts. Spending half an hour to max out a corner is what I find extremely boring.

#27

Chat - Misc / Re: Favorite cars

Last post by Duplode - November 07, 2025, 01:04:14 AM

I don't know what car this is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az0bJsuh2aY

Chevrolet Impala, 3rd generation from the early 60s. (Rotoi's Impala, BTW, is a 2nd generation one.)

#28

General Chat - ZSC / Re: ZakStunts pipsqueaks Tier ...

Last post by alanrotoi - November 07, 2025, 12:32:14 AM

He is faster than you "on the road" and you are doing more tricks. Since there are not many tricks on this track he wins. It's actually pretty simple.

Yes, this was the zct243 but not always was like this. The point of the video is to show no matter the effort I did or the crazy tricks I tryied, he beated me with a simplier but perfect drive that was the best choice.

Can we stop this silly discussion?

It was never a discussion from me. So no hard feelings from my part. This is an exchange of point of view and opinions. There is no tier list of opinions . CTG said a valid point in my list about akoss' performance. I see good will in the comments of this thread so we can keep doing and sharing lists!

[Alien-tier 👽]

#29

General Chat - ZSC / Re: ZakStunts pipsqueaks Tier ...

Last post by MiDiaN - November 06, 2025, 11:52:05 PM

I'm still pretty new to this community, so I won't make a full tier list, but after watching a bunch of replays from top players, I wanted to share some notable ones. This is just my personal list, sorry if I missed anyone.

Alien-tier 👽 - You start wondering if these players are human or some kind of secret AI experiment gone rogue.
Renato Biker, Ayrton, Alan Rotoi

S-tier 💎 - Flawless lines, no mistakes. Almost pixel-perfect driving.
Gutix, Duplode, CTG, Akoss Poo, FinRok, Alain

#30

General Chat - ZSC / Re: ZakStunts pipsqueaks Tier ...

Last post by Argammon - November 06, 2025, 11:08:53 PM

All I will say is that your "measurements" are highly subjective.

Of course, that's the meaning. This doesn't make it any less important. To show and to know our personal subjectivety in a tier format. It's important to know how we think and how we see each other. There won't be a wrong tier list and also there can be more than one tier list from every of us since we can have many subjectiveties or points of view according to the many virtues a pipsqueak's performance can be catalogued.

Every opinion,always is made from facts and from subjectivety. We should fear an IA if it developes subjectivety... or not. But how it works my opinion here? I know I can beat you at any time as I also know you can beat me at any time. I can't say the same with Duplode. This video is the best way to explain my point:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ8JXL2gFTo

He is faster than you "on the road" and you are doing more tricks. Since there are not many tricks on this track he wins. It's actually pretty simple. Can we stop this silly discussion?