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#21
Competition 2025 / Re: ZCT001 25 years later
Last post by Mortimer Macmire - November 09, 2025, 05:20:13 PM
I gave it a little bit more thought and I got a new idea.

Since some of us have been asking for a GAR competion. Isn't it an idea to open up a gar competition with tracks from the first few seasons? So in race zct294 we have the GAR with Zct001 and in zct295 we have GAR with zct002.

The advantage is that we then probably have more activity in the GAR standings and the older tracks get some extra recognition that they definitely deserve. The downside might be that it's too busy in our already busy schedules to have to two separate tracks to race at the same time, another downside is that it might pull away some OWOOT/GAR fans from the main competition which than wil hurt both competitions.

Again, let me know what you think!
#22
Stunts Reverse Engineering / Re: Restunts repository - Git ...
Last post by Cas - November 09, 2025, 07:24:57 AM
Hey!  As you guys know, I'm travelling. Soon will be back. Just wanted to clarify about my opinions on SDL. I do think SDL is a very good tool and I don't mean to say at all that programming for SDL is in any way easier than programming on a library that's built into the compiler. I just find that SDL is in itself like a language and programming for it in C is a very different experience from just making a C program (or C++). On the other hand, what I try to achieve with my programs is some portability (through time, more than from platform to platform, but both are good). I have not been very successful on that in GNU/Linux and I keep trying to improve that. SDL does not solve this. It solves other things. Still, I've been interesting in trying it many times, but well, I'd like to solve my portability problem first of all. So far, the only solution appears to be to program for DOS :P
#23
General Chat - ZSC / Re: ZakStunts pipsqueaks Tier ...
Last post by Erik Barros - November 09, 2025, 03:57:05 AM
Interesting topic! Here's my tier list:
S Class – Has won a ZakStunts championship
A Class – Has won at least one ZakStunts race
B Class – Has finished on the podium in at least one ZakStunts race
C Class – Has won at least one ZakStunts race in the Amateur League
D Class – Has finished on the podium in at least one ZakStunts Amateur League race
E Class – Has participated in the championship

Note 1 — Mark Nailwood didn't win a championship at ZakStunts, but if you race him in an automatic transmission, you'll be obliterated faster than your lap timer even starts

Note 2 - Victor Narl didn't run enough to reach the podium, but I know he's capable

Note 3 - The names are not listed in order of preference; I simply added them to the list

Note 4 - Perhaps I made a mistake with some pipsqueak, many of the names are unfamiliar, it's nothing personal

Tier list updated... thanks @alanrotoi
#24
Competition 2025 / Re: ZCT001 25 years later
Last post by alanrotoi - November 09, 2025, 12:22:51 AM
It would be a nice option for zct300 too. We have to think what to do next year!
#25
Competition 2025 / ZCT001 25 years later
Last post by Mortimer Macmire - November 08, 2025, 08:26:42 PM
Hi Guys,

Lately I've been (casually) re-driving some of the older tracks. Doing this I got an idea that might be cool to implement in te last race of this season.

What if we, in celebration of ending the anniversary 25th season, reopen zct001 as a one-time side scoreboard? Many of us were not around at that time and this way we can honor the pipsqueaks of that era.

Let me know what you think of this idea!

#26
Stunts Chat / Re: Stunts videos
Last post by alanrotoi - November 08, 2025, 08:03:08 AM
A helicopter trick in zct165 with a Corvette!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wegY2fXt56Q


 The funny thing is that "helicopter trick" is one of the hardest tricks in the game. It was made just for fun in this case because the best car for this track, according to the car bonuses was Speedgate XSD. Even my own teammates used the proper car. Check the scoreboard: https://zak.stunts.hu/tracks/ZCT165

So, racing this track without the proper car (I used the Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1) and performing a very complex trick it's an example of how we have fun playing this game besides the competition result.

I was pretty satisfied with this replay knowing it wouldn't be a competitive lap. It got 10th place :D Please enjoy the replay and the trick!
#27
General Chat - ZSC / Re: ZakStunts pipsqueaks Tier ...
Last post by dreadnaut - November 07, 2025, 11:15:58 PM
I'll have @alanrotoi and @Argammon in my S tier of folks who create interesting threads.

I don't know enough to attempt a tier, but I'll put @CTG and @Renato Biker at the top tier for "pipsqueaks who are good at hinting and explaining how to drive well". Marco, Seeker1982, Duplode and FinRok are brilliant at the driving bit, so deadly in live races. Tricks are an interesting mix of patience, attention to detail, imagination, and dedication/time. I have trouble differentiating, but I know I can get the first two with a powergear car. I have only admiration for those who can put consistent skill and effort on all those fronts.
#28
General Chat - ZSC / Re: ZakStunts pipsqueaks Tier ...
Last post by CTG - November 07, 2025, 05:22:24 PM
Bonus:

Tier B: Dottore
Tier C: Bolo Yeung, Navras, Böllér Jani, Rokker Zsolti
Tier D: CrazyDriver, Ukyo Katayama, Zweigelt

;D ;D ;D

(Yes, there were many other, less important ghosts - I don't remember them.)
#29
General Chat - ZSC / Re: ZakStunts pipsqueaks Tier ...
Last post by Argammon - November 07, 2025, 10:12:40 AM
Quote from: alanrotoi on November 07, 2025, 12:32:14 AM
Quote from: Argammon on November 06, 2025, 11:08:53 PMHe is faster than you "on the road" and you are doing more tricks. Since there are not many tricks on this track he wins. It's actually pretty simple.

Yes, this was the zct243 but not always was like this. The point of the video is to show no matter the effort I did or the crazy tricks I tryied, he beated me with a simplier but perfect drive that was the best choice.


Quote from: Argammon on November 06, 2025, 11:08:53 PMCan we stop this silly discussion?
It was never a discussion from me. So no hard feelings from my part. This is an exchange of point of view and opinions. There is no tier list of opinions ;D . CTG said a valid point in my list about akoss' performance. I see good will in the comments of this thread so we can keep doing and sharing lists!

Sorry for not being clear. What I tried suggesting was that we stop our discussion about whether I belong in tier A or S. Whereas I put more weight on (somewhat) object measures such as the Folyami rating (Me->Tier S), direct clashes (Ayrton, Gutix -> tier S), the medal table (Duplode ->Tier S, MidiAN ->one tier down), or a combination of those (Renato->Tier S), you look at replays and subjectively decide which ones you like best. We are not going to reach an agreement here, but -as mentioned- it is fine to agree to disagree. You are of course free to continue discussing the tiers with other pipsqueaks as long as you please.  :)

Regarding the replay you posted, there is little doubt that Duplode is one of the best OWOOT pipsqueaks in history. But even the top pipsqueaks have different strengths and weaknesses. It is not like Duplode is better than you on every possible type of track.
 
Finally, I would like to point out that even the "track" issue is subtle. As an example, consider someone saying "pipsqueak X is best at power-gear". What does this really mean? Even here, we have to distinguish between

  • Tracks where doing a power-gear lap is easy and the race is about finding the last milliseconds. https://zak.stunts.hu/tracks/ZCT287 is a good example for this.
  • Tracks where doing a power-gear lap is extremely difficult. Here the most important issue is to complete a power-gear lap where others fail, see https://zak.stunts.hu/tracks/ZCT284 for example
  • Tracks where doing a power-gear lap is easy but that hide incredible but difficult shortcuts that upon completion give a pipsqueak the upper edge, https://zak.stunts.hu/tracks/ZCT260 is a prime example for this. (How you cannot admire this trick is beyond me. If Ayrton did it, it would be the most magical trick in stunts history.)

Of course, you could add more categories and thereby make the list even more fine grained. My point is that it is not the same pipsqueak who is the best in all possible categories. The same is true for the many different types of NON-PG tracks.

This will be my last post on this topic for a while as I will be away travelling. So see you at the end of ZCT292.

What I can promise is that I am not going to submit a maxed out replay, meaning that I will only be able to win if I find tricks or shortcuts that the competitors do not. But tricks and shortcuts are what I love about Zakstunts. Spending half an hour to max out a corner is what I find extremely boring.
#30
Chat - Misc / Re: Favorite cars
Last post by Duplode - November 07, 2025, 01:04:14 AM
Quote from: Matei on November 06, 2025, 10:56:50 AMI don't know what car this is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az0bJsuh2aY

Chevrolet Impala, 3rd generation from the early 60s. (Rotoi's Impala, BTW, is a 2nd generation one.)