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#91
Competition and Website / Re: New features 2024
Last post by dreadnaut - October 12, 2024, 09:15:36 PMMinor upgrade to the profile track list, now with thumbnails!
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#92
Team Zone / Re: B teams
Last post by Duplode - October 12, 2024, 07:54:06 PMStill on displaying "team associates" on the race scoreboard, perhaps a straightforward "NS" marker (short for "non-scoring") would look better than an asterisk:
Alternatively, we might just use "alumni" and "academy". There's a case for those two categories being enough to cover all associates -- "alumni" for those who once were in the main squad, and "academy" for those who haven't been in it yet:
Alternatively, we might just use "alumni" and "academy". There's a case for those two categories being enough to cover all associates -- "alumni" for those who once were in the main squad, and "academy" for those who haven't been in it yet:
#93
Stunts Chat / Re: Rotoi Challenge - #rotoich...
Last post by Mortimer Macmire - October 12, 2024, 07:09:33 PMGreat find @alecu ! I never would found this old thread myself, but it was really cool to try!
Here's my contribution using the Lola Cosworth Indy. Maybe I'll try it with some of the other fast cars later.
And @alanrotoi , I'm definitely for the idea of having more of these fun little challenges.
Here's my contribution using the Lola Cosworth Indy. Maybe I'll try it with some of the other fast cars later.
And @alanrotoi , I'm definitely for the idea of having more of these fun little challenges.
#94
Team Zone / Re: B teams
Last post by Duplode - October 12, 2024, 04:01:49 PMQuote from: dreadnaut on October 12, 2024, 01:16:40 PM- Bernie has visibility of team replays, strategies, PG surprises, and comes ahead of Duplode
- Evenmorespeed gains points from Bernie's result, taken away from Duplode's own team, Cork's Crew
- The result is that Doubleplusspeed has a proxy team to help them in the team competition
Note, though, that as long as we accept that additional people beyond the 4-member limit can be on a team subforum and share replays, many of these things will already happen even without B-teams. In your scenario, if Bernie were an unregistered member of Doubleplusspeed instead of being in a B-team, they would mutually benefit from their relationship all the same. As I see it, creating Evenmorespeed would only do two extra things:
- Assigning a team name to Bernie and co., making their relationship easier to spot (without having to rely on e.g. scattered messages about individual pipsqueaks); and
- Inserting Evenmorespeed into the team scoreboard (something I find unproblematic, but opinions may vary).
I'm not sure I'd frame the underlying issue in terms of collusion. In my vision, it should be transparent and taken for granted that B-teams are an extension of their parent team -- and again, the relationship of its individual members with the parent team is no different than it would be if they were unregistered members instead.
Quote from: dreadnaut on October 12, 2024, 01:16:40 PMWhat are possible alternatives then? Ideas on my mind:
If B-teams showing up on the team scoreboard is deemed a problem, either of those ideas would be an acceptable compromise IMO.
Quote from: dreadnaut on October 12, 2024, 01:16:40 PM🐱 "team associates", individuals that belong to a team but won't bring points for the current season
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❓ how do we show them on the website? is the profile page enough, or should they be highlighted on the scoreboards?
I would really like to also see it on the race scoreboards, though I guess we'd need to find a concise way of conveying the difference between (scoring) regular members and (non-scoring) associates. If we can't find a good enough single word, maybe an asterisk with a tooltip or a link would be enough?
#95
Team Zone / Re: B teams
Last post by alanrotoi - October 12, 2024, 02:07:49 PMA solution about team points would be "only 2 best results counts" then no matter the size of the team or its proxy team.
#96
Team Zone / Re: B teams
Last post by dreadnaut - October 12, 2024, 01:16:40 PMI'm still a bit uncertain about B teams, let me make an example:
- Doubleplusspeed signs a fifth 'apprentice' member, Bernie
- Bernie appears on the scoreboard as part of the Evenmorespeed team
- Bernie has visibility of team replays, strategies, PG surprises, and comes ahead of Duplode
- Evenmorespeed gains points from Bernie's result, taken away from Duplode's own team, Cork's Crew
- The result is that Doubleplusspeed has a proxy team to help them in the team competition
Similar situation can arise with "squad rotation" teams: if any members were to visit for a race, they could affect the team competition.
I think is important to foster competition between teams, and avoid 'collusion' (even involuntary). What are possible alternatives then? Ideas on my mind:
🙊 "non-scoring teams", whose members won't gain points for the team competition
➕ similar to B teams
➖ still limited to four members
➖ might be unclear, as it mixes 'squad rotation' and 'apprentices'
🐱 "team associates", individuals that belong to a team but won't bring points for the current season
➕ full flexibility on numbers
➕ can be labelled differently as 'alumni', 'apprentices', etc.
❓ how do we show them on the website? is the profile page enough, or should they be highlighted on the scoreboards?
Other options? What do you folks think?
- Doubleplusspeed signs a fifth 'apprentice' member, Bernie
- Bernie appears on the scoreboard as part of the Evenmorespeed team
- Bernie has visibility of team replays, strategies, PG surprises, and comes ahead of Duplode
- Evenmorespeed gains points from Bernie's result, taken away from Duplode's own team, Cork's Crew
- The result is that Doubleplusspeed has a proxy team to help them in the team competition
Similar situation can arise with "squad rotation" teams: if any members were to visit for a race, they could affect the team competition.
I think is important to foster competition between teams, and avoid 'collusion' (even involuntary). What are possible alternatives then? Ideas on my mind:
🙊 "non-scoring teams", whose members won't gain points for the team competition
➕ similar to B teams
➖ still limited to four members
➖ might be unclear, as it mixes 'squad rotation' and 'apprentices'
🐱 "team associates", individuals that belong to a team but won't bring points for the current season
➕ full flexibility on numbers
➕ can be labelled differently as 'alumni', 'apprentices', etc.
❓ how do we show them on the website? is the profile page enough, or should they be highlighted on the scoreboards?
Other options? What do you folks think?
#97
Team Zone / Re: Teams for 2024
Last post by dreadnaut - October 12, 2024, 01:06:21 PMFirst of all, congratulations to @Mortimer Macmire, Cork's Crew have picked up a new strong pipsqueak!
I'd also like to announce that @alecu is joining Doubleplusspeed as an apprentice member 🎉
I'd also like to announce that @alecu is joining Doubleplusspeed as an apprentice member 🎉
#98
Live Races / Re: Midnight Desert Rally (202...
Last post by dreadnaut - October 12, 2024, 12:21:20 PMOooh, this looks really interesting, but I won't make it. Have fun everyone!
#99
Live Races / Re: Lap counting in Le Stunts ...
Last post by dreadnaut - October 12, 2024, 12:10:48 PMQuote from: Duplode on September 11, 2024, 04:40:14 PMAlso, experimenting with additional formats that are potentially more TV-friendly, as in @Erik Barros 's suggestions above, is well worth doing!
Live races after all can have (and have had) different rules. Things can evolve event by event, we don't need to get something right on a planning board 👍
#100
Stunts Questions / Re: How, who and when? How co...
Last post by Duplode - October 12, 2024, 05:04:51 AMNice work, thanks! By the way, I probably should try setting a lap time on the "A" track...