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Started by CTG, January 07, 2009, 01:16:26 AM

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zaqrack

or you can go up to 1000EUR with good neighbours :)

CTG

Quote from: zaqrack on December 28, 2012, 11:21:44 PM
or you can go up to 1000EUR with good neighbours :)

It's Hungary. You can't. Or at least not in this district.
286,36 km

dreadnaut

Oh, I thought you were talking about Hell :-\  Not interested in Hungary, sorry.

Chulk

Quote from: dreadnaut on December 29, 2012, 01:41:25 AM
Oh, I thought you were talking about Hell :-\  Not interested in Hungary, sorry.
Sending someone to hell has now lost all of it sense, knowing there's a real place called 'Hell' (and probably better to live in than most Argentinian places)
Yes, it is me. No, I'm not back at racing (for now...)

CTG

This is a Melange topic! >:(

286,36 km

dreadnaut

#95
Sorry, back on topic.


Friker

#96
back to the off-topic line: "2009-05-03 Friker   you will end in 9th Circle of Hell CTG!!! even Duplode was so kind and leave me there for some time :-/" even back than words "Hell" and "CTG" were strongly connected in my head :D - you know - first impression.. :)

CTG

#97
Quote from: Friker on December 30, 2012, 01:19:04 AM
back to the off-topic line: "2009-05-03 Friker   you will end in 9th Circle of Hell CTG!!! even Duplode was so kind and leave me there for some time :-/" even than words "Hell" and "CTG" were strongly connected in my head :D - you know - first impression.. :)

MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (satanic laugh)

286,36 km

alanrotoi

Do it has new dashboard and chassis?

alanrotoi

#99
Did you know "Melange" ("mixture" in French) name is the way to explain its origin from the mix of some cars and a tribute to the Speedracer's robot opponent?
"Melange still races!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51C9yAGVB-w

CTG

#100
Have you ever noticed that Jaguar XJR, Porsche 962 and Melange XGT-88 have the same torque curve? Except a little difference: the Melange graph is 5 units longer.

So what's the real difference? As you can see, Alan made some really minor modifications.



   RPM      P962      XJR9      XGT-88   
   idle      52      52      52   
   128      17      17      17   
   256      17      17      17   
   384      17      17      17   
   512      17      17      17   
   640      17      17      17   
   768      17      17      17   
   896      17      17      17   
   1024      17      17      17   
   1152      17      17      17   
   1280      19      19      19   
   1408      1a      1a      1a   
   1536      1b      1b      1b   
   1664      1c      1c      1c   
   1792      1d      1d      1d   
   1920      1e      1e      1e   
   2048      1f      1f      1f   
   2176      1f      1f      1f   
   2304      1f      1f      1f   
   2432      1e      1e      1e   
   2560      1e      1e      1e   
   2688      1f      1f      1f   
   2816      1f      1f      1f   
   2944      1f      1f      1f   
   3072      1f      1f      1f   
   3200      20      20      20   
   3328      20      20      20   
   3456      20      20      20   
   3584      21      21      21   
   3712      21      21      21   
   3840      22      22      22   
   3968      22      22      22   
   4096      23      23      23   
   4224      23      23      23   
   4352      23      23      23   
   4480      24      24      24   
   4608      24      24      24   
   4736      26      26      26   
   4864      26      26      26   
   4992      26      26      26   
   5120      27      27      27   
   5248      28      28      28   
   5376      28      28      28   
   5504      28      28      28   
   5632      28      28      28   
   5760      29      29      29   
   5888      29      29      29   
   6016      29      29      29   
   6144      29      29      29   
   6272      29      29      29   
   6400      2b      2b      2b   
   6528      2b      2b      2b   
   6656      2b      2b      2b   
   6784      2d      2d      2d   
   6912      2d      2d      2d   
   7040      2d      2d      2d   
   7168      2d      2d      2d   
   7296      2d      2d      2d   
   7424      2d      2d      2d   
   7552      2d      2d      2d   
   7680      2d      2d      2d   
   7808      2d      2d      2d   
   7936      2d      2d      2d   
   8064      2d      2d      2d   
   8192      2d      2d      2d   
   8320      2d      2d      2d   
   8448      2d      2d      2d   
   8576      2d      2d      2d   
   8704      2d      2d      2d   
   8832      2d      2d      2d   
   8960      2d      2d      2d   
   9088      2d      2d      2d   
   9216      2d      2d      2d   
   9344      2e      2e      2e   
   9472      30      30      30   
   9600      32      32      32   
   9728      32      32      32   
   9856      33      33      33   
   9984      34      34      34   
   10112      35      35      35   
   10240      36      36      36   
   10368      37      37      37   
   10496      37      37      37   
   10624      35      35      35   
   10752      35      35      35   
   10880      33      33      33   
   11008      33      33      33   
   11136      33      33      33   
   11264      32      32      32   
   11392      30      30      30   
   11520      30      30      30   
   11648      2e      2e      2e   
   11776      2e      2e      2e   
   11904      2d      2d      2d   
   12032      2d      2d      2d   
   12160      29      29      29   
   12288      29      29      29   
   12416      -      -      29   
   12544      -      -      29   
   12672      -      -      29   
   12800      -      -      29   
   12928      -      -      29   


   Parameters      P962      XJR9      XGT-88   
   Mass      14 (20)      15 (21)      14 (20)   
   Air drag      18 (24)      18 (24)      18 (24)   
   Redline RPM      2AF8 (11000)      2AF8 (11000)      2AF8 (11000)   
   Upshift RPM      27D8 (10200)      27D8 (10200)      28D8 (10456)   
   Downshift RPM      1B58 (7000)      1B58 (7000)      1C58 (7256)   
   Idle RPM      708 (1800)      708 (1800)      708 (1800)   
   1st gear      7D00 (32000)      7D00 (32000)      7C00 (31744)   
   2nd gear      6338 (25400)      6338 (25400)      6238 (25144)   
   3rd gear      4A38 (19000)      4A38 (19000)      4938 (18744)   
   4th gear      3FAC (16300)      3FAC (16300)      3EAC (16044)   
   5th gear      33E7 (13287)      33E7 (13287)      326F (12911)   

These are only useless number, but what's the real meaning?

Theoretical top speed: Melange 218.1; IMSA cars 211.9
Acceleration: Melange & P962 almost identical (because of the slightly different gear ratios); Jaguar ~7% worse
Top speed in each gears: Melange - 88.7, 112.0, 150.2, 175.5, 218.1; IMSA cars - 88.0, 110.9, 148.2, 172.8, 211.9
Auto trm upshift: Melange - 84.3, 106.5, 142.8, 166.8; IMSA cars - 81.6, 102.8, 137.4, 160.2 ---> since the maximal performance (~517 HP) can be found at RPM 10456 for all these cars, the IMSAs switch up a little bit too early, while Melange is more or less perfect in automatical upshifts (on flat tracks, of course)
Auto trm downshift: Melange - 73.9, 99.1, 115.8, 143.9; IMSA cars - 70.6, 94.3, 109.9, 134.9

286,36 km

Duplode

Also, Melange has slightly better handling due to inheriting car dimensions and terrain grip from LM002.

CTG

Quote from: Duplode on July 20, 2013, 10:05:05 PM
Also, Melange has slightly better handling due to inheriting car dimensions and terrain grip from LM002.

How I hate those magic carpets... (ZCT61)
286,36 km

JTK

Quote from: Duplode on May 29, 2009, 07:56:45 PM
Then send your partially finished files to Rotoi, I'm sure they will be useful as a starting point at least. And please send the VW bus shape to me too, as one of these days I still have to try my hands at the JTK-mobile  :)

When will my dream ever come true...  ::)
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