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The tall vs long car size difference will probably remain, not much we can do there. The Monster Truck might look tiny

The day has come! 

Thanks @Victor Narl , @Alain il professore , @Spoonboy and @alanrotoi !

This was a challenging competition with an unprecedentedly tight deadline. I was only saved by having a lot of free time during those days, but I see that not all the riders were able to cope with such a short deadline, especially in the third stage, and because of this, the competition lost a lot of interest. Therefore, for future similar competitions, I would like to see a more lenient/loyal deadline, and I think other riders will support me in this proposal.

I agree the schedule was not ideal, which was largely due to us having free time problems as well -- for me in particular, things got much busier than expected over the last several weeks. My initial plan was having three two-week rounds starting on December 3rd, but it was not possible to get everything ready in time for the 3rd. I could have played it safe and set up only two rounds of two weeks, but it felt like featuring only 8 rally cars would be betraying the concept of the special event a little bit, ergo the unusual 2-1-1 schedule.

I specially wanted to race the Citroën ZX Rallye Raid so I already made a test. Beatiful car, interesting accel/top speed combo, there aren't custom cars with this performance so it's welcome! One note to add, the ingame performance info for 0-60 mph it's wrong. It says "5.30 sec" when instead it is "4.95 sec". I bet we would extract its best potential in very close tracks, full of closed corners, like real rally tracks.

Yeah, it's a pretty interesting combo! It was nice to see the various sub-classes/styles of rally cars on the race track. Another highlight for me, which I hadn't tried before, was the Stratos Gr5 (IIRC Spoonboy had already noticed its potential earlier).

After reviewing recent threads, here's my proposal for 2026:

- Ferrari Testarossa
- Melange XGT-88
- Williams Renault FW12C
- Chevrolet Silverado Monster Truck
- DAF Siluro Turbo Spec

And here is my proposal of starting bonuses for this list:



The coefficients were worked out in the same way as last year: start from the end-of-season base bonuses, add the new cars at what should be reasonably competitive values relative to the others, and tweak the numbers so that the global sum stays at 176. A spreadsheet making those steps more explicit is attached.

Seeing no further comments, my plan is to confirm the 2025 ruleset, including PTB as-is.

That's a sensible choice.

While I'm on record in favour of keeping PTB as-is for this year with an eye to possibly tweaking the system for 2027, I also wanted to do some analysis of the 2025 PTB data and bring it to the table so we'd have a better picture of how well it worked and potential things to improve. I'm sorry I couldn't come up with that on time for this thread, off-Stunts matters to deal with made it hard for me to sustain focus over these last few months. In any case, I'll work on it as soon as feasible.

(Another thing I was thinking about a few weeks ago was yet another approach to try keeping powergear cars in check. It's fine to leave that for the next preseason as well, if it still makes sense by then -- I do think, after all, that we're slowly but steadily learning how to live with PG under the current rule set.)

[NRL]

These are the final standings across the three rounds. Congratulations to @Victor Narl , overall winner of the Christmas Event!

• NRL: 4×22 + 3×23 + 3×13 = 196
• ALA: 4×20 + 3×19 + 3×7 = 158
• DUP: 4×9 + 3×16 + 3×7 = 105
• SPO: 4×14 + 3×9 + 3×0 = 83
• ROT: 4×7 + 3×13 + 3×0 = 67
• CAS: 4×5 + 3×0 + 3×0 = 20
• STC: 4×1 + 3×4 + 3×1 = 19

Thanks to @stanceboyCZ for the event concept (and also for making sure we actually had a track to race in mid-December!), to @Daniel3D for opening us the doors of his competition, to the designers of the rally cars that we have featured here, and last but not least to all the pipsqueaks who brought one or many of those cars to the track! 

The third and final race results have been published! -- congratulations to @Victor Narl , who had 4 out of 4 top times in this round, as well as the one lap under two minutes!

Lark

Small rule clarification: for this race at least, bounces and boosts from the pipe walls are allowed, not counting as a violation of the rule about barriers. (That's assuming you won't go all the way through the wall to come out on the other side and land on grass, which is probably not useful here anyway).

When will you finalize the car pack?

Last year it was confirmed on the Sunday, hours before the update, though we might be able to have a less tight schedule this time.

If you're wondering about the bonuses for the adjustments, the post-ZCT293 coefficients for the DSI cars are:

Acura: +5
Audi: +22
Vette: +7
GTO: +11
Jaguar: +4
Countach: +15
LM002: +37
Lancia: +16
P962: +5
Carrera: +23
Indy: -27

The base bonuses for the new season should be broadly like that, with us adding the new custom cars at neutral to mildly favourable bonuses, and probably adding or removing a few points evenly from all cars so that the sum of coefficients is a multiple of 16.

The third and final round of the Christmas Special is open at https://ccc.mystunts.net/ ! The track for this week is by yours truly, and is called Blankenship. The deadline is next Saturday, 2026-01-10 23:59:59 UTC, and the cars for this round are:

• Ryoma's Lancia Delta Evo 3 "Viola"
• Ryoma's Ferrari GTO Evoluzione (competition debut!)
• @Zapper 's Lamborghini LM-002 Tuned For Real (competition debut!)
• Ryoma's Citroën ZX Rallye Raid (competition debut!)

You can (re)download the cars from the site or from this post, to make sure you have the latest versions of them all.

Note that the normal CCC rules are back in place for this round: tunnels are checkpoints to be driven through the inside; finish under the banner; no driving through solid barriers; no penalty time.

A spy photo, what a great sight 

@dreadnaut: where shall I send it?

Please send it to both Dreadnaut and me. I'll PM you the addresses just in case.

[NRL]

Were my 4 laps not received? I sent them all yesterday       

As Victor says, they were received as quiet laps; it's just that I couldn't finish the verification in the evening. It's now done, though  Results confirmed and archived. Congratulations to @Victor Narl and @Alain il professore on the podium! The Sierra laps in particular are a very good watch.

The third and final track will be open later today, in a few hours hopefully -- watch this space for news!

Here are the overall event standings at the moment:

• NRL: 4×22 + 3×23 = 157
• ALA: 4×20 + 3×19 = 137
• DUP: 4×9 + 3×16 = 84
• SPO: 4×14 + 3×9 = 83
• ROT: 4×7 + 3×13 = 67
• CAS: 4×5 + 3×0 = 20
• STC: 4×1 + 3×4 = 15

Late rule clarification: since I wrote here and on the site that "any line is okay", for this race it will be allowed to drive through slalom blocks and other barriers. We will be back to the traditional CCC rules for the next round.

[Melange XGT-88]

Here are my suggestions for this year's car pack!

• Melange XGT-88: Our most storied custom car, the Melange IMO is a must-have for the 25th anniversary season!
• Ferrari Testarossa: An iconic car, a solid option in the sports cars tier -- and, going by your lists, a popular pick as well.
• McLaren Honda MP4/4: I'll follow @CTG 's lead and nominate this classic for my single-seater slot.
• Chevrolet Silverado Monster Truck: A very fun choice for the slow car tier!
• DAF Siluro Turbo Spec: And for the wildcard slot, something completely different! Also, the Siluro should look great side by side with the Monster Truck 

If you want to try these cars: The Testarossa (Ryoma's latest version from 2025-07-26) is attached to this post, the Siluro is available on Southern Cross, and the other cars can be obtained from R4K.

Honourable mentions/some candidates for the future:

• The Williams FW12 is a very cool race car that will likely be my next single-seater pick in a future list.
• The Mazda 787B is another sound choice that I skipped for this year's suggestions merely because, in the IMSA class, we'd already have the Melange, and both the P962 and Jaguar are bound to be competitive soon.
• I would love to be able to race with the Citroën XM; however, Ryoma is reticent about it. (I don't think there's actually anything to worry about, but still.)

Nice! I have now joined the scoreboard as well. (One of them, to be precise  )