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  that calls for a Lamborghini CCC,
The Anti-PG, the Bug-free and the PG edition

Prior art: ZakStunts own cars.ini, compiled over the years

Thanks, that is a good list to pounder upon.
I'm still thinking in a system that makes sense and possible to sort or filter.
Noticing that ther are Flag based paint jobs i extended my idea a bit and i will try to make an example..

From the ini:

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|DBMW|
long = BMW M3 E30 DTM
short = BMW DTM
colors = White, Black, German Flag, Red, Green, Grey, German Striped, Cyan, Purple Striped

The colour section has different styles.
I was thinking something like::
Number of paint jobs = 9
Colour.1 = 14, White,
Colour.2 = 13, Black,
Colour.3 = 13, 8, 9, German Flag,
Colour.4 = 8, Red,
Colour.5 = 11, Green,
Colour.6 = 2, Grey,
Colour.7 = 13, 8, 9, German Striped,
Colour.8 = 3, Cyan,
Colour.9 = 5, 6, Purple Striped

The colour numbers are an example, based on the post above. Up to 3 colour codes and a name. The colour codes can be translated to an image and used for filtering.

The archive interface might even have an user-facing option "Use original IDs, even if clashing", which would rename the files being downloaded.

The archive should at least give warning ⚠️.
If we accept doubling of ID's the Car managers have to be able to distinguish between them.
That would also solve the game version issue because adding that check is quite trivial considering. 
So adding a field to the car information could be wise, like.. | ID Double= (empty =Unknown) or Yes.
Downloading such car With a fake ID may be sensible, but shouldn't be mandatory. A car manager could do it as well, so the alternative ID and original should be stored as well.

Not really sure what the best solution would be for the car IDs, but both Simple Garage and Pretty Garage (the one I'm working on now) heavily rely on standard four-character car IDs to identify cars, so once we have a good clear solution, I should see that they follow it... Hopefully, it wouldn't be super hard to implement.

I think we should treat the ID as a number plate.

we should be thinking of "plating" our cars, ha, ha.

That would also mean I think that we have to make an Registry for new plate ID's.
Were you can reserve an ID for your project for a set time (one year, renewable?) So if a creator disappears before it gets done the ID comes available again.

If an outside the community creation is found we have to determine case by case what to do about the ID if it's already in use.

For clarity I would suggest to try to fit them in to these 18 colours plus multi.
Primary colour, secondary colour and a name?

Something similar with car colours.

To be honest, I hadn't thought full descriptions of each paint jobs would be included. I assumed rough labels like "Red/Blue" or "Red stripes" would be enough 😅

Yup, I'd lean towards that as well: settle on "standard" names for common paint jobs, and, on a case by case way, use simple combinations or invent fantasy names for the uncommon ones. I might start a thread for collecting those later 

Number of paint jobs. Handy for live races..

- author: main author, or should we have authors as a list?

I think it's important to record multiple authors. There usually (though not necessarily) is a distinction between a main author and other contributors, and keeping track of it through separate fields, as @Cas suggests, could be semantically reasonable. (Also, it's indeed appropriate for the author to be optional, as sometimes we just don't know who they are.)

Something similar with car colours.
Some are Multi colour. But usually there is a dominant colour.
So for that maybe a primary colour and a secondary colour.
Where the secondary colour can be set to multi.
That should include most colour schemes.

I would like general statistics.

Mass / PG class
Flat track top speed
0 / 60
0 / 100
Grip and/or Tire type? Track/Road/Rally
Car Class (race/sports/road/off-road/special)

These also provide good filter options.

We have. But this setup is difficult to execute and run from seperate locations. It's also far from perfect because the timer doesn't function as intended because you have to make room and wait for the second player while it's running..

As far as modifications go. There are many ideas that are possible that have greater interest and impact than this. So it will take time for this one to become a thing..

[Stunts Forum & Portal]

Meta question: should we have a sub-subforum for this project? While my first impulse would be raising specific design questions and the like on GitHub, it's not likely everyone will be there to talk, and so keeping the discussions here would make sense.

Thinking about it, and a bit broader..
The wiki doesn't have a place as well (or I couldn't find it quickly and that's basically the same thing)

Can we make subgroups underneath wiki and portal sub?

Stunts Forum & Portal

Anything about the Stunts Racing Portal

www.stunts.hu and this forum

Making subs below

• Forum
• Portal
• Wiki
• Repositories
• Car Database

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• Track Database?

I suppose they can be decompressed with stunpack. The thing is to later actually open them and edit the chunks

No. PES is not packed with the stunpack algoritme..
But fully explained Here

Shows how little i know about cars. Not the slightest clue what cars fit a certain category.

I just looked at this list. https://wiki.stunts.hu/wiki/Custom_cars#List_of_custom_cars

True, that's what I did with three flavours of midrange cars.
But that was mixing different properties.
Matching similar performance like mentioned above is for me less clearly visible.

I Also have no clue about the performance of the real cars.   

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But i can make a different Pack.
(1 of GT3 / CERV / F40) + Porsche 959 + Diabolo

Alternatively: keep the GT3 + CERV + F40 pack and, in another race, make it 959 + Diablo VT + Ferrari 512TR.

I wonder if Ruf Yellowbird fits in this category.

Remember there are more car around this GTO to CERV range of supercars like Jaguar XJ220 and Bugatti EB110 and Ferrari Mythos.

Shows how little i know about cars. Not the slightest clue what cars fit a certain category.

But that's not the reason why I suggested it. I thought that, by keeping one car it would be easier to compare them as a whole.

Pes files are also standard packed/encrypted. (Of the shelf encryption) other P## files use a dedicated packing, specifically made for stunts.
It's a shame it's still not implemented into stressed..

I think that it's a programmed error message. PES (Esh) files were used by earlier games of DSI as well. The are now only used in the track editor and intro animation. Those were probably made outside the core team. It could be that the horizon image also started as PES or Esh.